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Subject: Re: Crafty don't find a winning move !!

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 14:53:43 02/01/00

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On February 01, 2000 at 16:42:00, Côme wrote:

>On February 01, 2000 at 16:20:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2000 at 16:15:20, Côme wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>After some minutes the eval of Junior 6 is more than +1 on my K6 II 350.
>>How many minutes?  What was the reported depth in plies?  What was the pv?  Did
>>it see the right line?
>>
>>>In human point of vue Bg5!! is winning but it is may be true than programs
>>>choose it but not for the right reasons.
>>
>>The centipawn evaluation tells all. ;-)
>>If it thinks it is a few hundredths of a pawn ahead, it does not know why it
>>chose the move.
>
>
>Hello Dann,
>
>On my K6 II 350
>After 3:57 Junior show +1.02 but don't find the strongest line.
>After 8:11 Junior show +1.24 but don't find the strongest line.
>I am sure that if I let more time Junior will find the strongest line.
>Junior 6 seem to be the only program who find quickly Bg5!! with a winning
>eval for white !

This is a position that explodes with possibilities.  I think Junior has some
superior positional evaluation in order to choose it.

I think all the programs will find it once they complete ply 12.

A one pawn advantage is not exactly decisive, but it shows that it does see a
clear advantage.  I wonder how far until it sees the true line?

Any program that happens to pick Bg5 will probably have an advantage here,
because it plays itself after you choose it.  It does not seem nearly so
difficult as some of the LCT II positions (one, in particular, I just have to
take on faith, because I really don't get it).  Sometimes, you have to see the
plan clearly after you make a positional move.  Otherwise, it is of no advantage
and perhaps even a disadvantage.



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