Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 17:36:28 02/01/00
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On February 01, 2000 at 20:27:01, Chessfun wrote: >On February 01, 2000 at 19:30:29, Dann Corbit wrote: >>On February 01, 2000 at 19:19:58, Côme wrote: >>>On February 01, 2000 at 19:09:18, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>> >>>>Junior 6a won 12-8, +8 -4 =8. Games will be posted at >>>>http://www.computerschach.de/tourn/cad00.htm >>>> >>>>Next match, Century - Hiarcs 7.32. >>>> >>>>Enrique >>> >>>Hello Enrique, >>>Great Tournament ! >>>Few months ago CT destroy all this opponent, but now the new king seem to be >>>Junior 6a ! >>>What do you think Enrique? >> >>I suspect that you are reading a lot more into this tournament than is possible. >>Junior (by the SSDF) indeed looks very strong. But this tournament was at >>fairly short time controls. Hence, the data is not at all commensurate with >>SSDF testing [Though I am not sure you implied that]. > > >According to both Enrique and Christophe the 40"/40 40"/40 40 as used >in this tourney is just as suitable a time control as those used by the >SSDF, to measure the strength of a program. Christophe stated 60 game, >therefore I am somewhat extracting that he would also see these times >the same way. Any time control is suitable to measure the strength of a program. Blitz, lightning, Postal (24 Hrs/move or even longer), whatever. But 40 moves in 40 minutes is a full ply shorter than 40/2. In other words, you are measuring different things. It could be especially salient if extensions kick in at some point in the analysis. The point I think I wanted to make, but failed completely to do so, was that a 1000:0 result at 40/2 and a 0:1000 result at 40/40 could be genuine aritfacts of how the programs play (however unlikely). People sometimes see a short set of games at some time control very different from the SSDF results and imagine that there is a refutation, confirmation or otherwise in connection to the SSDF results. In reality, it's none of the above. Apples compared to oranges.
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