Author: Chessfun
Date: 17:46:35 02/01/00
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On February 01, 2000 at 20:36:28, Dann Corbit wrote: >On February 01, 2000 at 20:27:01, Chessfun wrote: >>On February 01, 2000 at 19:30:29, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>On February 01, 2000 at 19:19:58, Côme wrote: >>>>On February 01, 2000 at 19:09:18, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>>Junior 6a won 12-8, +8 -4 =8. Games will be posted at >>>>>http://www.computerschach.de/tourn/cad00.htm >>>>> >>>>>Next match, Century - Hiarcs 7.32. >>>>> >>>>>Enrique >>>> >>>>Hello Enrique, >>>>Great Tournament ! >>>>Few months ago CT destroy all this opponent, but now the new king seem to be >>>>Junior 6a ! >>>>What do you think Enrique? >>> >>>I suspect that you are reading a lot more into this tournament than is possible. >>>Junior (by the SSDF) indeed looks very strong. But this tournament was at >>>fairly short time controls. Hence, the data is not at all commensurate with >>>SSDF testing [Though I am not sure you implied that]. >> >> >>According to both Enrique and Christophe the 40"/40 40"/40 40 as used >>in this tourney is just as suitable a time control as those used by the >>SSDF, to measure the strength of a program. Christophe stated 60 game, >>therefore I am somewhat extracting that he would also see these times >>the same way. > >Any time control is suitable to measure the strength of a program. Blitz, >lightning, Postal (24 Hrs/move or even longer), whatever. But 40 moves in 40 >minutes is a full ply shorter than 40/2. In other words, you are measuring >different things. It could be especially salient if extensions kick in at some >point in the analysis. > >The point I think I wanted to make, but failed completely to do so, was that a >1000:0 result at 40/2 and a 0:1000 result at 40/40 could be genuine aritfacts of >how the programs play (however unlikely). > >People sometimes see a short set of games at some time control very different >from the SSDF results and imagine that there is a refutation, confirmation or >otherwise in connection to the SSDF results. In reality, it's none of the >above. Apples compared to oranges. It is possible I could also expressed better. The point I was trying to make was the time control 40"/40 40"/40 40 is far from -short- and that the results produced at these time controls should produce results similar to the SSDF results after a similar # of games. Thanks.
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