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Subject: Re: What is the winning line??

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 00:23:51 02/02/00

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On February 02, 2000 at 02:11:09, Côme wrote:

>On February 01, 2000 at 19:47:37, Pete R. wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2000 at 11:43:54, Côme wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In this position :
>>>[D]r2qkb1r/pp1n1ppp/4n3/1B6/Q7/2N2P2/PP3P1P/R1B1K2R w KQkq - 0 1
>>>
>>>After 8 min on my K6 II 350  Crafty 17.07 don't find Bg5!!
>>>
>>>Junior and Fritz find Bg5!! very quickly.
>>
>>Not really, at least not Fritz.  Fritz 5.32 "finds" Bg5 immediately, but then
>>discards it until reaching depth 12/37 where it switches back to it.  At 14 ply
>>it is still on Bg5, but only gives it 0.38 eval.  In other words it is decidedly
>>unimpressed.  IMO these sorts of posts should ALWAYS be accompanied with the
>>winning line.  This avoids having to ask things like "What is the winning line
>>here after 1. Bg5 Nec5?".  Hiarcs 7.32 is similarly unimpressed, so let's not
>>bash Crafty just yet.  For laughs I will run Fritz 5.32 and Crafty 17.7
>>overnight on this position on identical hardware (PII 400 128MB) and see what
>>they say in the morning.  My bet right now is that Bg5 does not merit even a
>>single !. :)
>
>Hello,
>Bg5,Nec5,Bxd8,Nxa4,Bxa4,Rxd8,0-0-0 1-0
>Best Regards
>Alexandre Côme

1. Bg5! Nc5 (there is nothing to disambiguate) 2. Bxd8 Nxa4 3. O-O-O is also
winning.  It's not just a transposition, but the tactical theme hasn't really
changed.

Dave



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