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Subject: Re: Cadaqués Tournament: Junior 6a - Tiger, 12-8

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 04:02:39 02/02/00

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On February 02, 2000 at 06:27:18, Jürgen Hartmann wrote:

>>
>>I suspect that you are reading a lot more into this tournament than is possible.
>>Junior (by the SSDF) indeed looks very strong.  But this tournament was at
>>fairly short time controls.  Hence, the data is not at all commensurate with
>>SSDF testing [Though I am not sure you implied that].  If you look at the +/-
>>figures you will see that the winning margin is hardly conclusive.
>
>I feel pity for the poor programs winning tournaments. They always get told how
>meaningless this particular event was. Poor Stefan Meyer-Kahlen who only won
>three completely negligible World Championship titles is my favourite example.
>
>Of course Cadaqués is completely meaningless since everybody who can throw a
>coin immediately sees that chess game results are completely random.
>
>The data is not at all commensurate with SSDF testing! Aha. So it seems quite
>possible that Junior gets a bad SSDF ranking as soon as the Swedes start testing
>it. However if against all strong expectations Junior (or an arbitrary other
>program) gets a good SSDF result, I am sure we'll immediately discover the
>methodological faults in their work which makes it meaningless and negligible.
>
>If I were a chess programmer, I would however prefer to win the completely
>meaningless tournaments, rather than not.

Hi!

Very good post!

Bertil



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