Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 08:29:31 02/02/00
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On February 02, 2000 at 02:16:12, Côme wrote: >On February 01, 2000 at 20:43:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On February 01, 2000 at 16:15:20, Côme wrote: >> >>>On February 01, 2000 at 14:34:37, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On February 01, 2000 at 11:43:54, Côme wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>In this position : >>>>>[D]r2qkb1r/pp1n1ppp/4n3/1B6/Q7/2N2P2/PP3P1P/R1B1K2R w KQkq - 0 1 >> >>00:00 6 (0) 1 -0.19 Bb5xd7 Qd8xd7 Qa4xd7 Ke8xd7 >>00:00 8 (0) 1 0.46 O-O >>00:00 112 (0) 2 0.07 O-O Bf8-d6 >>00:00 597 (0) 3 0.35 O-O a7-a6 Bb5-d3 >>00:00 1942 (0) 4 0.20 O-O a7-a6 Bb5xd7 Qd8xd7 Qa4xd7 Ke8xd7 Bc1-e3 >>++ c1-e3 >>00:00 4093 (0) 4 0.23 Bc1-e3 Ne6-c5 Qa4-d4 a7-a6 >>00:01 11444 (540) 5 0.29 Bc1-e3 a7-a6 Bb5xd7 Qd8xd7 Qa4xd7 Ke8xd7 Ke1-e2 >>00:03 34299 (1070) 6 0.02 Bc1-e3 a7-a6 Bb5xd7 Qd8xd7 Qa4xd7 Ke8xd7 O-O-O Bf8-d6 >>++ c1-f4 >>00:05 101207 (5754) 6 0.14 Bc1-f4 Ne6-c5 Qa4-c4 a7-a6 Bb5xd7 Qd8xd7 O-O >>00:07 179795 (6376) 7 -0.11 Bc1-f4 a7-a6 Bb5-e2 Ne6xf4 Qa4xf4 Qd8-b6 Be2-c4 >>++ c1-e3 >>00:08 211403 (8694) 7 0.07 Bc1-e3 a7-a6 Bb5-d3 Ne6-c5 Be3xc5 Bf8xc5 O-O >>++ e1-g1 >>00:09 242393 (15721) 7 0.15 O-O a7-a6 Bb5-d3 Bf8-e7 Rf1-d1 Ne6-c5 Qa4-g4 Nc5xd3 >>Rd1xd3 >>++ c1-g5 >>00:12 358864 (21763) 7 1.01 Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7 Bg5xe7 Qd8xe7 O-O-O Ra8-d8 Qa4xa7 >>00:16 492023 (41491) 8 0.54 Bc1-g5 Ne6-c5 Bg5xd8 Nc5xa4 O-O-O Ra8xd8 Rh1-e1 Bf8- >>e7 Bb5xa4 >>00:24 873401 (45658) 9 0.38 Bc1-g5 Ne6-c5 Bg5xd8 Nc5xa4 O-O-O Ra8xd8 Rh1-e1 Bf8- >>e7 Bb5xa4 g7-g5 >>01:06 2527768 (92156) 10 1.18 Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7 Ra1-d1 Ne6-c5 Qa4-d4 f7-f6 Bg5-e3 a7 >>-a6 Bb5-c4 b7-b5 >>02:05 5006663 (399125) 11 1.26 Bc1-g5 Bf8-e7 Ra1-d1 Ne6-c5 Qa4-d4 f7-f6 Bg5-f4 a >>7-a6 Bb5-c4 Nd7-b6 Qd4-e3 Qd8-c8 >>>> >>>>>After 8 min on my K6 II 350 Crafty 17.07 don't find Bg5!! >>>>> >>>>>Junior and Fritz find Bg5!! very quickly. >>>> >>>>What were the evals of the programs that found it? >>>> >>>>I am wondering if they really saw a win, or made (instead) a positional choice. >>>> >>>>Since the tactical payoff is 6 full-moves deep, it seems unlikely that most >>>>programs will find the tactical reason quickly. >>> >>> >>> >>>Hello Dann, >>>After some minutes the eval of Junior 6 is more than +1 on my K6 II 350. >>>In human point of vue Bg5!! is winning but it is may be true than programs >>>choose it but not for the right reasons. >>>Best Regards >>>Alexandre Côme > > >Hello Vincent, >Good eval but Diep don't find the strongest line! Oh it did make the right move with the right score, so what do you care? What is strongest for mankind isn't best for computer usually >Best Regards >Alexandre Côme
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