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Subject: Re: Fritz no better than Crafty here

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:40:12 02/02/00

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On February 02, 2000 at 14:39:18, Pete R. wrote:

>I ran both Fritz 5.32 and Crafty 17.7 to 16 ply, and while they agree that Bg5
>is best they do not eval a clear win until you feed it to them.  If you give
>them  1. Bg5 Nc5, Crafty finds the Bxd8 Nxa4 O-O-O +- continuation before Fritz
>does.  But neither one of them sees this from the root position.  This is yet
>another example of a position where the search depth is sufficient to cover the
>solution, but the programs don't see it until you give them a hint.
>Specifically the position after 1. Bg5 Nc5 takes 12 ply for both Crafty and
>Fritz to see the win, but since I ran them both to 16 ply, they should have seen
>the win from 2-ply back, but didn't.  Of the programs I have, Hiarcs 7.32 is
>fastest to see the win (and eval it as such) in the position after Bg5 Nc5, but
>is as blind as the others to see this winning line from the root.
>
>In theory alpha-beta should cover this, i.e. a 16 ply search should find
>something that a 12 ply search finds from a position 2 ply down the road, but
>reality is different.  This is another example where a bunch of shorter searches
>backsolved would be superior to a deep search from the root.


One possiblility is that Nc5 is not the best reply to Bg5?  That will make this
behave as you explain.



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