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Subject: Re: Rebel Tiger...........Second impressions

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 10:00:17 02/03/00

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On February 03, 2000 at 10:40:13, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:

>On February 03, 2000 at 01:32:45, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2000 at 14:17:57, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>>On February 02, 2000 at 13:04:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 02, 2000 at 10:17:22, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 02, 2000 at 00:24:48, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 01, 2000 at 22:10:43, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 01, 2000 at 13:48:33, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 01, 2000 at 11:30:57, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chess Tiger is a remarkable program! It is very unique in it's analysis.
>>>>>>>>>I've watched thousands of games on ICC over the last three years and
>>>>>>>>>CT as an engine is truly a gem. But the GUI needs work. I believe
>>>>>>>>>they are addressing those issues that need improvement. There is
>>>>>>>>>supposed to be a patch in the mill that will address some of the Chess
>>>>>>>>>Partners short comings. The reason I used the heading "Second impressions"
>>>>>>>>>is it took to long and too much programming to get CT going . It was >frustrating
>>>>>>>>>to many of us who are not computer Tech-ies, even average when it comes
>>>>>>>>>to understanding computers. But now that I have had CT up and running
>>>>>>>>>on ICC for a few days it has become enjoyable indeed.
>>>>>>>>>Christopher ....the wait was worth it!....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks. I'm glad that you understand the work involved and the reasons behind
>>>>>>>>the release delays.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>looking forward to the patch and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let's call this an update. No serious problems have been found in Rebel-Tiger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I do appreciate your timely response. CP support has also been very helpful
>>>>>>>>>and thanks to Lex for his addressing the internet connecton problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Good. We want our customers to enjoy the product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Christophe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope the update will include the Opening name, variation, and ECO code to be
>>>>>>>on the screen while playing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, I am very appreciative of the timely response from CP support. Lex
>>>>>>>has been very helpful and responds quite quickly. This kind of support is
>>>>>>>absolutely wonderful!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Mel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks, we try to answer as quickly as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you have a serious problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a number of what I would term minor nagging problems mostly due to a lack
>>>>>of information provided by the readme file and CD manual. Here is a listing:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Hash-table amount was not addressed; for example, recommended amounts for
>>>>>different time controls. Perhaps some type of formula could be implemented for
>>>>>the type of processor speed and amount of RAM available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This feature is already added in my new in-the-lab engine. Tiger now adjusts the
>>>>hash table size automatically by measuring your computer's performances. You
>>>>just tell the maximum amount you allow, Tiger choses the best possible amount
>>>>for your computer AND time controls.
>>>***************************************
>>>
>>>The above is an excellent solution!
>>
>>
>>Actually it is implemented in the program since one month (IIRC), because Lex
>>had exactly this problem when he ran the program on the chess server for several
>>weeks: how much hash tables to give to the program? Not giving enough means
>>losing strength at long time controls, giving too much means weakening
>>significantly Tiger at very fast time controls (because clearing the hash tables
>>takes too much time).
>>
>>The "automatic adjust HT" feature solves this.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am truly overwhelmed by the support
>>>provided by both you and Lex. It appears that people who purchase your product
>>>will get unprecedented support, and rather quickly as well. You have certainly
>>>spent a lot of time here and helped many by providing answers.
>>
>>
>>I hope we can keep on at the same pace. So far so good because, after all, very
>>few problems have been reported...
>>
>>
>>
>>>I certainly wish
>>>you the very best, and feel confident you will overtake Junior and once again be
>>>Number One! Regardless of whether you do retake the number 1 slot, and I do not
>>>doubt that you will, Rebel-Tiger still offers Internet connectivity and Junior
>>>does not.
>>>
>>>I am also impressed with your competitive nature -a true tiger - and I know you
>>>are truly dedicated to putting out the best chess program. I thank you for
>>>entering the chess software arena, and for being who you are.
>>
>>
>>Your comment about competitive nature is interesting. For years, I did not know
>>I had it. I was just a guy curious of everything. I have never been involved in
>>any sport, so I had never been really involved in true competition. Actually, I
>>did not like competition.
>>
>>But since I have started to work really hard in my program, this competitive
>>character slowly began to appear. Now it is an important part of my life.
>>
>>I'm almost sure that many many peoples have this too, but they have not found
>>the right activity to use it. The kind of activity you like so much that all the
>>hidden power you have deep in yourself can be expressed. When you want something
>>so much that your "I cannot do that" inhibitions vanish. Yes, very often we do
>>not succeed because we are convinced that we cannot succeed. When you are very
>>much interested in something, you get to the point that you just forget that it
>>is not possible, and you "just do it" (I'm sure you have seen this somewhere
>>else already ;).
>>
>>As I said I had never been involved in sport, but now I understand why it is so
>>important to encourage children to practice one sport or another. It's mainly
>>about competitive spirit, about not giving yourself artificial limits.
>>
>>Isn't this funny? When you are a child you don't know about the limits. You
>>spend years in school to learn the limits, what is possible and what is not. But
>>later, what is the best way to succeed? Un-learn that there are limits. Become a
>>child again and dream.
>
>When I was around 9 years old, my father used to always defeat me in checkers. I
>would not quit playing against him, even though he often boasted. I kept at it
>until I was always defeating him! Of course he about 98 years old then - only
>kidding. Actually, it was only a matter of one or two years.
>
>Some people will begin to learn chess, lose regularly, and decide not to play
>anymore because they're not good enough. Then there are stubborn people, like
>myself, who learn, lose, keep on losing, and still keep playing!
>:-)
>
>Mel


Being stubborn (not too much) is not that bad! :)


    Christophe



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