Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 08:16:18 02/04/00
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On February 04, 2000 at 09:58:54, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On February 03, 2000 at 18:43:00, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On February 03, 2000 at 17:19:22, John Warfield wrote: >> >>> >>> I have heard several people claim that karpov would be the best against >>>computers. I think this is untrue, as karpov barely beat deep thought in 1986, >>>actually the positional was drawn and deepthought blundered. Another game is the >>>draw karpov got against a mere micro program schredder. In 1996 Karpov conducted >>>a simul exhibition at the aegon tournament where fritz4 managed to draw him. >>>Actually kasparov has a much better record. >> >>You are absolutely right about Karpov who can't play computers. A few >>years ago a kind of Rebel Decade 2.0 version played two 30/all games >>against Karpov on a poor Pentium-200. Two draws. And in the last game >>Karpov was rescued by the organizers offering him a draw in a bad >>position while having very little time on his clock too. The 2 games >>are somewhere on my pages for those who are interested. >> >>Ed > > >Hello, > >I believe that you people are very wrong about Karpov's ability to play chess >--and chess is what we are trying to discuss, be it a match against a computer >program or a human. Karpov is obviously not computer chess savvy, but give that >guy a couple of months and he'd be destroying one chess progam after another at >tournament levels. I still marvel at people not realising how much chess >knowledge a real World Champion at Chess such as Karpov (not Khalifman:)) has at >his fingertips and how much bellow him (unfortunately) computer programs still >are at tournament levels. This said, I do believe that a good program (such as >Rebel, or Shredder or Fritz or Tiger, etc.) is quite capable of defeating a >run-of-the-mill GM at blitz or rapid chess in a match, and even putting up one >hell of resistence at tournament levels. However, super-super GMs like Karpov, >Kasparov, Anand, Kramnik or Morozevich are still a cut above the best of >software, say a good 100 ELO pts, or more, above. > > >*** Djordje Say Rebel has to play a 6-game match on 40/2h and I have the freedom to choose the opponent: Hoffmann Seirawan Karpov Timman my order would be: Timman Karpov Hoffmann Seirawan IMO Rebel would have (a lot) better chances against Karpov than against Seirawan. Source of information: having played against them. ELO is not the connection here, the ability to play computers is. Some know how to, some don't. Yet.... Ed
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