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Subject: Re: Rebel-Tiger vs Fritz 5.32 (220 Bullet game results)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 12:58:50 02/04/00

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On February 04, 2000 at 12:35:43, Chessfun wrote:

>On February 04, 2000 at 12:20:07, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On February 04, 2000 at 09:08:49, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On February 04, 2000 at 02:53:29, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 04, 2000 at 00:02:53, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 03, 2000 at 22:37:24, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 03, 2000 at 21:40:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 03, 2000 at 17:42:59, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 03, 2000 at 14:43:13, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yesterday I played Rebel Tiger vs Fritz 5.32 some Bullet/blitz games to try to
>>>>>>>>>get a feel for which is stronger.  I admit my format is a little strange but the
>>>>>>>>>results were interesting to me anyway.  I only have a PII-333 and a K6-3-450 so
>>>>>>>>>I have to swap the programs for half of the games to be fair.  This time I tried
>>>>>>>>>something a little different.  I gave the program on the PII-333 3 min/game
>>>>>>>>>while I gave the program on the k6-450 only 2 min/game.  The first 110 games
>>>>>>>>>Tiger had the K6-3-450 and Fritz 5.32 had the PII-333.  The score of the first
>>>>>>>>>110 games was 60-50 favor Tiger.  Of course I changed computers and tried again
>>>>>>>>>for another 110 games.  The second score was 59.5-50.5 favor Fritz 5.32.  So the
>>>>>>>>>totals were Chess-Tiger 110.5 to Fritz 5.32 109.5.  I doubt if anyone wants to
>>>>>>>>>see the 220 games.  One more thing, I played Fritz 5.32 without access to it's
>>>>>>>>>endgame CD.  I thought it interesting that 50% more time failed to compensate
>>>>>>>>>for the 35% speed advantage.  Maybe not enough games?
>>>>>>>>>Anyone care to comment?
>>>>>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Jim.
>>>>>>>>      You should try this with H732. I once let it and F532 play
>>>>>>>>1600, one minute games. H732 scored over 1300 !!.
>>>>>>>>I wasn't proud to admit I run these types of games so I never
>>>>>>>>posted the result. It was just after someone here made a statement
>>>>>>>>on playing 1000 one minute games between these two programs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let H732 try the Tiger....I would be interested in those results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have played several hundred games using auto232 and Hiarcs is definitely
>>>>>>>stronger than any other program I have at game/1min.  My results vs Fritz were
>>>>>>>not as strong as yours but it was still around 70% for Hiarcs.
>>>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you or somebody else has enough time, I would like to hear about a long match
>>>>>>Rebel-Tiger against Hiarcs 7.32 at very fast time controls (between 1 and 3
>>>>>>minutes per game).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't have Hiarcs, so I cannot try this myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I also would like to see these games, I have Hiarcs
>>>>>but no Tiger.
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I thought you had ordered the product?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>Someone had ordered it for me, then when it was unavailable
>>>prior to Christmas the order was cancelled.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>And now that Junior has buried Tiger, you do not need that loser anymore? ;)
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>
>No, I don't see that Junior has buried Tiger.
>I see the games at Enriques and SSDF but I don't
>think that is enough to convince me. Now Didzis has
>some more games going the other way so that is good !!.
>
>Though Junior 6 and 6a I find are both impressive and
>that is going on my own results only.
>
>I am sure I will get Tiger soon, right now I am
>debating whether I should buy more ram? upgrade one
>of my other computers? or spend my money on CT?.
>Plus Feb 12 I go on vacation for two weeks so need
>more money there too !!.
>
>Thanks.


I understand perfectly.

I have myself chosen not to buy Tiger and to buy more hardware instead. :)

Now I have one new fast test computer (in addition to those I already own), and
I hope I can get more reliable results and improve my program further.



    Christophe



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