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Subject: Re: Junior 6a vs Rebel Tiger match in progress

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 15:25:11 02/04/00

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On February 04, 2000 at 15:54:47, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On February 04, 2000 at 13:15:18, Didzis Cirulis wrote:
>
>>
>>>Hi Didzis,
>>>         Can you tell me the difference between this
>>>Chess Tiger 12.0f and the one at Enriques Cadaques
>>>tourney 12.0e.? Is it the changes NSEW=1 and MoreSel=1?
>>>
>>>Also is 16 mb hash enough for Junior 6 at 1 hour/game?.
>>>
>>>Thanks for posting the games!.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>Hi Sarah,
>>
>>First of all let me say that my testing method is not for those of us who have
>>several fast computers for their games. I have one 200MMX only.
>>
>>Both programs are put in equally bad, but constant, conditions. This way I can
>>see if a new program's version does better compared to previous (in my testing
>>environment). The point is to see program's "effectiveness/given time". Let me
>>explain this one a bit. In my games every program is given 60 minutes for a
>>game. There is no hope for additional time as permanent brain is off. Now, if
>>program has a good score at this constant time, there is a good reason to
>>believe that it will be better at any level with PB ON as a successfully guessed
>>move would mean an additional time. More time + higher "effectiveness/given
>>time" = good hope for a win.
>>
>>Returning to Junior I would say it is strong. A very strong and solid program.
>>When I run a couple of test matches among the top ChessBase engines, Junior was
>>one of the best engines and one that was giving a hard time to Fritz 6a. My
>>previous games of Junior 6 (not 6a) vs Tiger 12.0e went equal, both in score and
>>observation. I have no data for any conclusive statements, but I like the way
>>this new 12.0f plays.
>>
>>About 16 MB I would say that it is difficult to give both programs more RAM on a
>>64 RAM computer. Swapping is not allowed :-). Even in this situation there may
>>occur some seconds long swapping, especially if both programs use tablebases. A
>>tipical example would be Junior vs Chess Tal.
>>
>>Well... I have answered more then you have asked! :-) Sorry about that.
>>
>>And yes, you are right. That Tiger 12.0f = 12.0e + NSEW=1 and MoreSel=1.
>>
>>Have a great chess!
>>
>>Didzis
>
>
>Let me clarify this a little bit. Chess Tiger 12.0f is not what you say.
>
>Chess Tiger 12.0f is exactly the same engine as 12.0e (which is the commercially
>released engine), but 12.0f is able to adjust its hash table size automatically
>depending on the computer you use and the time controls to play.
>
>So regarding playing strength, 12.0e (commercial) = 12.0f
>
>Both versions can be enhanced by setting this is the CT.INI file:
>  NSEW=1
>  MoreSel=1
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Hi!

Why do you think (believe) these settings are better? How did you came to that
conclusion?

Bertil



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