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Subject: Re: Junior forfeits to Crafty!

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 09:40:24 02/05/00

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On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems,
>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be
>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban.
>
>
>Here is what happened:  About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing
>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents.  IE playing on in
>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc...
>
>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so.  He kept the claim alive.  I
>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play
>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would
>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand
>if my program was _so_ abusively written.)  I then told him here that I was
>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted.
>
>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing
>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time."  I then
>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it).  At
>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged
>in myself and removed the censor for ban.
>
>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well.  Apparently
>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the
>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on
>CCC.
>
>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I
>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way.  I had planned
>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I
>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that
>nonsense.
>
>That is all that I know.  I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as
>Crafty removing the censor.  I have no idea what he said, specifically... and
>see no reason to storm off in a huff.  He _knows_ why he was censored.  And
>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have
>fixed the problem...
>
>That's all there is.  What happens next is anybody's guess.  It certainly does
>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people.

Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now.

Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those
who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the
person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you.

I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes
before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he
was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is
censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on
CCC.

I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can
get a point for this game.

Bob's post is not an apology, as he himself says. It's more in the tone of the
posts that led to this.

Amir




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