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Subject: Re: Junior forfeits to Crafty!

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 17:24:10 02/05/00

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On February 05, 2000 at 17:19:49, Sune Larsson wrote:

>On February 05, 2000 at 12:54:14, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:40:24, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems,
>>>>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be
>>>>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Here is what happened:  About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing
>>>>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents.  IE playing on in
>>>>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc...
>>>>
>>>>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so.  He kept the claim alive.  I
>>>>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play
>>>>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would
>>>>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand
>>>>if my program was _so_ abusively written.)  I then told him here that I was
>>>>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted.
>>>>
>>>>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing
>>>>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time."  I then
>>>>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it).  At
>>>>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged
>>>>in myself and removed the censor for ban.
>>>>
>>>>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well.  Apparently
>>>>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the
>>>>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on
>>>>CCC.
>>>>
>>>>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I
>>>>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way.  I had planned
>>>>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I
>>>>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that
>>>>nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>That is all that I know.  I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as
>>>>Crafty removing the censor.  I have no idea what he said, specifically... and
>>>>see no reason to storm off in a huff.  He _knows_ why he was censored.  And
>>>>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have
>>>>fixed the problem...
>>>>
>>>>That's all there is.  What happens next is anybody's guess.  It certainly does
>>>>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people.
>>>
>>>Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now.
>>>
>>>Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those
>>>who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the
>>>person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you.
>>>
>>>I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes
>>>before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he
>>>was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is
>>>censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on
>>>CCC.
>>>
>>>I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can
>>>get a point for this game.
>>
>>
>>Amir, this is crap.
>>
>>You walked out of the tourney 10 minutes before it started.  You know damned
>>well that Bob would have lifted the censor so the game could be played.
>>
>>Your actions were extremely childish, and I'm afraid I have lost much of my
>>respect for you.
>>
>>--Peter
>
> So this censoring thing is not childish?!
> Thanks


Yes, it is childish, too.  Big egos usually don't mix well.

--Peter






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