Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 04:53:34 02/06/00
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On February 05, 2000 at 19:55:30, James Robertson wrote: >I do not know what gestapo means in German, but in English it is synonymous with >a certain group of people, not at all representative of Germans in general. the word is german. its a short form. >If >you made a comment about the evils of slave-owning people in early US history, I >would not be offended at all. you cannot relate this. the events have different levels. i see no reason in using these kind of relations. > I am surprised you do not feel the same way about >the gestapo. only a naive person can believe that my anger about the us-history comes close to my anger about my own history. or that the one thing was as sad as the other. what germany has done in ww2 cannot be related to other things. i hope it was unique and will never happen. using these words in an unsensible context hurts me. a unique thing, should not be related with todays things. > I am sorry if you are offended, and I will try not to offend you in >such a way again. thanks. >This is sort of related, and I think this is a good time to bring it up. On >_many_ occasions you (and others too) have directly insulted my country, the >USA. You have mentioned how violent you think it is, how coca-cola helped bring >that on, etc. etc. etc. >If everyone here stopped making snyde remarks about foreign countries, we would >all be less offended, less touchy, and happier. You cannot remove the >cultural/linguistic misunderstanding (as in the case of my post), so we should >deal with that as quietly and quickly as possible. >James IMO you cannot relate those things. if your country would have those sins made in their history, like mine has done to the people in europe and elsewhere, you would see what i mean. americans were europeans. they needed the new land, and the new country was full of indians. also they needed cheap-workers. so they brought their slaves with them or imported them. what they have done to their aborigines and to the slaves is their own sin. but it has IMO a different quality. the germans did it in the 20th century. and it cannot be related IMO. meanwhile you have found a way out with your own power, we never found the way out. so the need to stop these tendencies in europe is much higher. you can see this very good in the moment in the tensions between europe/germany and austria. in austria something happens no one would ever believe that it could happen again. but it did. and so the people are shocked. and want to tear it down with their hands.
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