Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:34:46 02/06/00
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On February 05, 2000 at 21:20:37, Chessfun wrote: >On February 05, 2000 at 21:05:31, Sune Larsson wrote: > >>On February 05, 2000 at 20:24:10, Peter Kappler wrote: >> >>>On February 05, 2000 at 17:19:49, Sune Larsson wrote: >>> >>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:54:14, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:40:24, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems, >>>>>>>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be >>>>>>>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Here is what happened: About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing >>>>>>>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents. IE playing on in >>>>>>>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so. He kept the claim alive. I >>>>>>>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play >>>>>>>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would >>>>>>>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand >>>>>>>if my program was _so_ abusively written.) I then told him here that I was >>>>>>>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing >>>>>>>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time." I then >>>>>>>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it). At >>>>>>>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged >>>>>>>in myself and removed the censor for ban. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well. Apparently >>>>>>>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the >>>>>>>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on >>>>>>>CCC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I >>>>>>>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way. I had planned >>>>>>>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I >>>>>>>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that >>>>>>>nonsense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That is all that I know. I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as >>>>>>>Crafty removing the censor. I have no idea what he said, specifically... and >>>>>>>see no reason to storm off in a huff. He _knows_ why he was censored. And >>>>>>>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have >>>>>>>fixed the problem... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That's all there is. What happens next is anybody's guess. It certainly does >>>>>>>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people. >>>>>> >>>>>>Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now. >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those >>>>>>who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the >>>>>>person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you. >>>>>> >>>>>>I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes >>>>>>before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he >>>>>>was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is >>>>>>censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on >>>>>>CCC. >>>>>> >>>>>>I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can >>>>>>get a point for this game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Amir, this is crap. >>>>> >>>>>You walked out of the tourney 10 minutes before it started. You know damned >>>>>well that Bob would have lifted the censor so the game could be played. >>>>> >>>>>Your actions were extremely childish, and I'm afraid I have lost much of my >>>>>respect for you. >>>>> >>>>>--Peter >>>> >>>> So this censoring thing is not childish?! >>>> Thanks >>> >>> >>>Yes, it is childish, too. Big egos usually don't mix well. >>> >>>--Peter >> >> Generally I'm a bit surprised to see that the "big egos" don't seem to >> understand that they shrink themselves as humans, by acting like this... >> To much stress on pride and prestige, maybe, who knows? Think I return >> to my cup of tea... >> >> Thanks > > >I see nothing wrong with the original censor. >The reason was clear enough at the time it happened. >It would have helped to remove it prior to the start >of the tourney, but as Dr. Hyatt explained he forgot, >which is also understandable. Amir's leaving should be >seen the same way "understandable" in the circumstances. > >Seems to me, MHO, a whole big deal was made out of this >thing, by all parties, but even more by those who were >not the principals. If the rest of us could stay out maybe, >just maybe, Dr. Hyatt and Amir would have already settled this.!! >Thanks. I "settled" it 3 months ago, in fact. :) that "resolution" will continue, as it worked then and it continues to work.
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