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Subject: Re: Embarrassment

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 09:09:54 02/06/00

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On February 06, 2000 at 09:26:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 06, 2000 at 02:40:34, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On February 06, 2000 at 02:20:32, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>>On February 06, 2000 at 01:21:23, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 23:26:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 21:06:15, Peter Kasinski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that Bob made an unfortunate oversight by not straightening this
>>>>>>"censor" business in time for the tournament (i.e. he was late days not
>>>>>>minutes).
>>>>>
>>>>>There I disagree.  The "censor" was for a purpose.  The "reason" didn't
>>>>>disappear "days before the tournament".  The "censor" will stand _after_
>>>>>the tournament.  I don't take accusations of misconduct lightly, now, back
>>>>>three months ago, nor will I take them lightly in the future.
>>>>
>>>>>I don't censor to disrupt a tournament.
>>>>
>>>>You managed anyway. The censor was there while it should have not.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>>I censor to show that I strongly disagree
>>>>>with the person that made the accusation.  I think it funny that _I_ was
>>>>>wrong for censoring him, but he doesn't think he was wrong when he made
>>>>>about the most idiotic statement ever made here (and directed toward me.)
>>>>>
>>>>>After witnessing today's claims/counter-claims/etc, I only wish we had a
>>>>>'+censor' option for CCC.  I would exercise _that_ as well.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And that?s regardless of its genesis. I understand how Amir must have
>>>>>>felt. Unfortunately, for all his contribution to computer chess (who else is
>>>>>>there? ) Bob isn?t exactly a sweetheart at times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But what?s really disturbing is a bunch of postings here from adolescent would
>>>>>>be moderators trying to give either one of them lessons in good manners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PK
>>>
>>>IMO TDs (Tourney Directors) are there just for that - to take care of forgotten
>>>censors,noplays, etc. I have the freedom and right to censor for whatever reason
>>>I feel like. You can't blame me for taking care of my comfortability...
>>>
>>>-Andrew-
>>
>>Yes, I can.  What someone does on their own time is their own business, but this
>>was a public event.  As much as it was possible for the people involved, the
>>personal stuff should have been checked at the door.
>>
>>When I direct a chess tournament, I don't remind every person to behave
>>themselves as I collect their entry fee, or at the beginning of each round.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>Explain to me the relevance of the above.  The censor was removed, _without_
>a TD's reminder.  It was removed _prior_ to the announced start-time for the
>round.  And as a TD, I _DO_ make sure that each round gets underway at the
>announced time.  I certainly didn't prevent that from happening.

The relevence is that the animosity between two of the computer programmers
caused a disturbance to the tournament.  That post did not attempt to deal with
specific claims of action/inaction/counteraction/etc.

Dave



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