Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 10:17:31 02/06/00
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On February 06, 2000 at 10:34:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 05, 2000 at 21:20:37, Chessfun wrote: > >>On February 05, 2000 at 21:05:31, Sune Larsson wrote: >> >>>On February 05, 2000 at 20:24:10, Peter Kappler wrote: >>> >>>>On February 05, 2000 at 17:19:49, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:54:14, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:40:24, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems, >>>>>>>>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be >>>>>>>>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Here is what happened: About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing >>>>>>>>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents. IE playing on in >>>>>>>>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so. He kept the claim alive. I >>>>>>>>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play >>>>>>>>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would >>>>>>>>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand >>>>>>>>if my program was _so_ abusively written.) I then told him here that I was >>>>>>>>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing >>>>>>>>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time." I then >>>>>>>>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it). At >>>>>>>>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged >>>>>>>>in myself and removed the censor for ban. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well. Apparently >>>>>>>>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the >>>>>>>>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on >>>>>>>>CCC. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I >>>>>>>>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way. I had planned >>>>>>>>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I >>>>>>>>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that >>>>>>>>nonsense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That is all that I know. I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as >>>>>>>>Crafty removing the censor. I have no idea what he said, specifically... and >>>>>>>>see no reason to storm off in a huff. He _knows_ why he was censored. And >>>>>>>>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have >>>>>>>>fixed the problem... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That's all there is. What happens next is anybody's guess. It certainly does >>>>>>>>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those >>>>>>>who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the >>>>>>>person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes >>>>>>>before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he >>>>>>>was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is >>>>>>>censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on >>>>>>>CCC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can >>>>>>>get a point for this game. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Amir, this is crap. >>>>>> >>>>>>You walked out of the tourney 10 minutes before it started. You know damned >>>>>>well that Bob would have lifted the censor so the game could be played. >>>>>> >>>>>>Your actions were extremely childish, and I'm afraid I have lost much of my >>>>>>respect for you. >>>>>> >>>>>>--Peter >>>>> >>>>> So this censoring thing is not childish?! >>>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, it is childish, too. Big egos usually don't mix well. >>>> >>>>--Peter >>> >>> Generally I'm a bit surprised to see that the "big egos" don't seem to >>> understand that they shrink themselves as humans, by acting like this... >>> To much stress on pride and prestige, maybe, who knows? Think I return >>> to my cup of tea... >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >>I see nothing wrong with the original censor. >>The reason was clear enough at the time it happened. >>It would have helped to remove it prior to the start >>of the tourney, but as Dr. Hyatt explained he forgot, >>which is also understandable. Amir's leaving should be >>seen the same way "understandable" in the circumstances. >> >>Seems to me, MHO, a whole big deal was made out of this >>thing, by all parties, but even more by those who were >>not the principals. If the rest of us could stay out maybe, >>just maybe, Dr. Hyatt and Amir would have already settled this.!! >>Thanks. > > >I "settled" it 3 months ago, in fact. > >:) You know what Bob? Amir was right leaving yesterday! Glad I am not participating. Ed >that "resolution" will continue, as it worked then and it continues to work.
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