Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:26:36 02/06/00
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On February 06, 2000 at 12:09:54, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On February 06, 2000 at 09:26:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 06, 2000 at 02:40:34, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>On February 06, 2000 at 02:20:32, Andrew Dados wrote: >>> >>>>On February 06, 2000 at 01:21:23, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 23:26:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 05, 2000 at 21:06:15, Peter Kasinski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I think that Bob made an unfortunate oversight by not straightening this >>>>>>>"censor" business in time for the tournament (i.e. he was late days not >>>>>>>minutes). >>>>>> >>>>>>There I disagree. The "censor" was for a purpose. The "reason" didn't >>>>>>disappear "days before the tournament". The "censor" will stand _after_ >>>>>>the tournament. I don't take accusations of misconduct lightly, now, back >>>>>>three months ago, nor will I take them lightly in the future. >>>>> >>>>>>I don't censor to disrupt a tournament. >>>>> >>>>>You managed anyway. The censor was there while it should have not. >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>>> >>>>>>I censor to show that I strongly disagree >>>>>>with the person that made the accusation. I think it funny that _I_ was >>>>>>wrong for censoring him, but he doesn't think he was wrong when he made >>>>>>about the most idiotic statement ever made here (and directed toward me.) >>>>>> >>>>>>After witnessing today's claims/counter-claims/etc, I only wish we had a >>>>>>'+censor' option for CCC. I would exercise _that_ as well. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And that?s regardless of its genesis. I understand how Amir must have >>>>>>>felt. Unfortunately, for all his contribution to computer chess (who else is >>>>>>>there? ) Bob isn?t exactly a sweetheart at times. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But what?s really disturbing is a bunch of postings here from adolescent would >>>>>>>be moderators trying to give either one of them lessons in good manners. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PK >>>> >>>>IMO TDs (Tourney Directors) are there just for that - to take care of forgotten >>>>censors,noplays, etc. I have the freedom and right to censor for whatever reason >>>>I feel like. You can't blame me for taking care of my comfortability... >>>> >>>>-Andrew- >>> >>>Yes, I can. What someone does on their own time is their own business, but this >>>was a public event. As much as it was possible for the people involved, the >>>personal stuff should have been checked at the door. >>> >>>When I direct a chess tournament, I don't remind every person to behave >>>themselves as I collect their entry fee, or at the beginning of each round. >>> >>>Dave >> >> >>Explain to me the relevance of the above. The censor was removed, _without_ >>a TD's reminder. It was removed _prior_ to the announced start-time for the >>round. And as a TD, I _DO_ make sure that each round gets underway at the >>announced time. I certainly didn't prevent that from happening. > >The relevence is that the animosity between two of the computer programmers >caused a disturbance to the tournament. That post did not attempt to deal with >specific claims of action/inaction/counteraction/etc. > >Dave No it didn't. I used +censor 3 months ago to stifle an argument, totally. I had _zero_ animosity at the start of round 5 yesterday. Had Amir waited for 5 minutes, there would have been no problem. Had they showed up right at 11am as they did for todays game, the problem would have been fixed by 11:01. The problem was _minor_. Minor problems happen all the time. Today we had a machine with a bad power supply. The game delay-started to give time to fix it. That _could_ have happened yesterday... although no delay was needed as I was ready to play at 10:50 CST. 10 minutes prior to the start of the round. Today I was ready at 11:00am. Ban was "closed" and refused challenges for a couple of minutes. I wasn't offended _at all_. I merely waited for him to get ready to play. That _could_ have happened yesterday...
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