Author: blass uri
Date: 08:54:37 02/07/00
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On February 07, 2000 at 09:01:40, jonathon smith wrote: >On February 07, 2000 at 08:56:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 07, 2000 at 02:35:58, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On February 07, 2000 at 02:13:19, Will Singleton wrote: >>> >>>>Quite unusual, I guess Crafty was all worn out from its ICC tourney win. This >>>>is a typical kside attack, I'm surprised Crafty allowed it. My first win >>>>against Crafty. >>> >>>Hi! >>> >>>Yes, king-security is probably one of Craftys weaker sides. I have seen Crafty >>>17.01 castle queen-side, right into an enemy attack in cases where a human or >>>another computer don´t even consider the possibility. >>> >>>Bertil >>> >>>> >> >>If it does, something is broken. Crafty has a _lot_ of code to analyze the >>king safety on _both_ sides of the board > > >ChrisW told me that Crafty has not much code and what it does have demonstrates >a total lack of understanding of king safety. > >ChrisW told me there are two types of chess programmers. Programmers. And chess >players. ChrisW told me that despite manifest protestations to the contrary, >"programmers" really have no idea. Which is why they bean-count. Like Crafty >does. > >I believe ChrisW. I know that programmers talk with chess players. I know that Amir ban talked with grandmasters. Do Chris think that the grandmasters have no idea to explain him the problems in the evaluation function of Junior? I am sure that Amir knows about many problems in the evaluation function of Junior(I told him about some problems that he did not fix). I guess that the reason that he did not fix them is not that he has no idea but because it is not easy to explain the computer everything that you know. It is also possible that he found that giving Junior more knowledge is going to do it weaker in games because the speed of the search is also important. I do not believe that you can learn from the fact that programs have no idea that the programmers have no idea. I know that Robert hyatt also talked with grandmasters and that he is not a weak player relative to most of the programmers. What is the minimal rating that a programmer need by chris's opinion to be a chess player? Is chris a chess player by his definition? Uri
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