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Subject: Re: Moderation: Can the moderators be trusted to REALLY ban someone?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 14:07:13 02/07/00

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On February 07, 2000 at 16:28:31, James B. Shearer wrote:

>On February 07, 2000 at 15:30:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Banning people and not accounts is harder than it seems.
>>Imagine that someone makes a new account named "Quimby."  Quimby starts posting
>>stuff that makes you suspect it is someone banned.  How do you know?  If Quimby
>>does not really cross the line, how can we remove them?
>
>          Remove them on reasonable suspicion.  If you are feeling generous give
>them a chance to prove to your satisfaction that they are someone else.  Are you
>claiming there is reasonable doubt about the real identity of "jonathon smith"?

I think we need to be very, very careful about being judge, jury and executioner
based on suspicion, no matter how strong.  This one seems obvious.  How about
some other cases?  Not always so easy.  Sometimes, they take a while to act out
the starring role rather than a somewhat calmer pseudo-nym.

There are ways to identify them besides guessing.  It is not always clear what
to do about someone who joins back under another alias.  What if they should
always behave themselves as model citizens, even though we know who they are?

I think that they should still be suspended until it is lifted officially by
CCC, but not everyone may have the same viewpoint.  And there clearly are two
sides to an issue such as this.  My viewpoints are often wrong.

I don't think there is any question about the identity of js.




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