Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 19:07:34 02/07/00
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On February 07, 2000 at 21:27:49, KarinsDad wrote: >>you make a mistake. you do not differenciate between people and words. >>words and discussions have the reason to >>attack each other. people should not attack each other. >Agreed. So why does he do it? And I am not attacking him with this question. I >would really like to know what motivates him to be abusive to others. i don't know. maybe he is depressed how less you can change by doing something fair. and how much you get by doing something unfair. >I made an agreement when I signed up. So did all of us. I try to stick by the >agreement. For some people, those words of agreement are only words. They mean >nothing. hm. i am no friend of "agreements". many people call me an anarchist therefore. or communist. or terrorist :-). for me people are more important than ideas. when i see an idea hurts somebody much, i consider about it and maybe change it. ideas are not over human beeings. no idealism should try to be. if you have a problem with him, why don't you ask him about ? >Did you perceive my post (above) as an attack against Chris? no. the attack is that he is banned. hitler was banned from society in/after ww1. he took revenge. napoleon. stalin. they were all not very integrated children in their youth. the group has thrown them out. they were "banned". they all took revenge. society should not separate people. it should try to integrate. >I have asked him. He has blown me off. try again. it needs always the right moment. people need time to find moments. when you are under attack, you cannot be nice to others. when you are relaxed, and you have slept over it, you can be more graceful. >Yes, I see it quite clearly. I am not against Chris either. I am against some of >his actions. I asked him two weeks ago to sign up under his own name and post >responsibly. He blew me off and then told the forum yesterday that I lied about >it. I would not have asked him to sign up if I did not think he could >contribute. hm. i think chris does not want to post here. when wolf biermann ( a political song writer of eastern germany) critisized the DDR, they threw him out. that was wrong. he critisized to change the society for making it better, not for making it worse. by throwing him out they took the chance that society gets better. because they ban him. this forum should not ban him, he is pro computerchess, not against it. >I think it is human nature. I think I have a thicker skin concerning myself than >I do others, but I too "retaliate" when I see one person being abusive to >another here on the forum. I do not like it and I do not think it should be >allowed. but the group helps the people. of course if the group has no good words to the 2 fighters. others than saying: you are right, he IS an asshole, than the situation will not change. i always thought the best therapy is the group. take them all together and make a party, don't forget to invite your enemy. >In some ways, I think we agree more than we disagree. of course. we are in one group. therefore we have something in common. and it is the same with you and chris. therefore it is wrong to ban him. >KarinsDda :)
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