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Subject: Re: Moderation: Can the moderators be trusted to REALLY ban someone?

Author: Roger

Date: 21:37:06 02/07/00

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On February 07, 2000 at 17:37:36, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>I think that a general election about things like this is ridiculous, for the
>same reason that there is no general election about a farm subsidy bill.  The
>amount of traffic generated is huge compared to the amount of general interest,
>and you end up with a huge volume of material that nobody has time to read, and
>who knows by what criteria the decision is made.  Multiply this by a couple of
>crises every few weeks and we'd have a giant mess.
>
>Consider that we have a giant mess already, as everybody throws in their own two
>cents about every damned thing.
>
>bruce

When I originally proposed it, Bruce, you pointed out that only two people have
ever been banned, Sean and ChrisW. The infrequency of the banning was your
argument why it should be handled by the moderators. But that argument cuts both
ways. The infrequency of it is why it can also be handled by the people.

The facts are that ChrisW has now given us empirical evidence that letting the
moderators handle it DID NOT WORK.

You and Dann and Karinsdad have done a great job moderating, there's no doubt
about it. On the issue of ChrisW, however, the three of you have been
wishy-washy. This is the only thing that turns and A+ job into an A-, in my
opinion. So we need to take a look at this and figure out why ChrisW is
consistenly able to invade our forum, when we supposedly have a mechanism in
place to stop him, the Moderators.

You mentioned criteria for decision-making. No one knows by what criteria Chris
has been able to manipulate our forum, and it is rediculous that he has been
able to do so. If Chris had been banned by the people, the moderators would KNOW
absolutely that their job was simply to STOP this nonsense in its tracks, and
Chris would know that he is unwanted by consensus, not by political maneuver. As
it was, the moderators ALLOWED this to go on. That was rediculous.

Roger








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