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Subject: Re: Moderation: Can the moderators be trusted to REALLY ban someone?

Author: Roger

Date: 22:10:06 02/07/00

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On February 07, 2000 at 17:07:13, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 07, 2000 at 16:28:31, James B. Shearer wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2000 at 15:30:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>Banning people and not accounts is harder than it seems.
>>>Imagine that someone makes a new account named "Quimby."  Quimby starts posting
>>>stuff that makes you suspect it is someone banned.  How do you know?  If Quimby
>>>does not really cross the line, how can we remove them?
>>
>>          Remove them on reasonable suspicion.  If you are feeling generous give
>>them a chance to prove to your satisfaction that they are someone else.  Are you
>>claiming there is reasonable doubt about the real identity of "jonathon smith"?
>
>I think we need to be very, very careful about being judge, jury and executioner
>based on suspicion, no matter how strong.  This one seems obvious.  How about
>some other cases?  Not always so easy.  Sometimes, they take a while to act out
>the starring role rather than a somewhat calmer pseudo-nym.
>
>There are ways to identify them besides guessing.  It is not always clear what
>to do about someone who joins back under another alias.  What if they should
>always behave themselves as model citizens, even though we know who they are?
>
>I think that they should still be suspended until it is lifted officially by
>CCC, but not everyone may have the same viewpoint.  And there clearly are two
>sides to an issue such as this.  My viewpoints are often wrong.
>
>I don't think there is any question about the identity of js.

You've been a great moderator, Dann...I admire your wit and your sense of
fairness, and that of Bruce and KarinsDad as well. You and I may disagree on the
issue of who should be able to ban, but I agree with you wholeheartedly that the
aliases of those who are suspended should be suspended.

You've heard the old saying that if you let someone break a rule, the rule gets
weaker. The rule became weak where ChrisW was concerned.

Roger



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