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Subject: Re: Moderation: Can the moderators be trusted to REALLY ban someone?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:30:14 02/08/00

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On February 08, 2000 at 01:16:27, John Warfield wrote:

>On February 08, 2000 at 01:10:06, Roger wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2000 at 17:07:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On February 07, 2000 at 16:28:31, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 07, 2000 at 15:30:51, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Banning people and not accounts is harder than it seems.
>>>>>Imagine that someone makes a new account named "Quimby."  Quimby starts posting
>>>>>stuff that makes you suspect it is someone banned.  How do you know?  If Quimby
>>>>>does not really cross the line, how can we remove them?
>>>>
>>>>          Remove them on reasonable suspicion.  If you are feeling generous give
>>>>them a chance to prove to your satisfaction that they are someone else.  Are you
>>>>claiming there is reasonable doubt about the real identity of "jonathon smith"?
>>>
>>>I think we need to be very, very careful about being judge, jury and executioner
>>>based on suspicion, no matter how strong.  This one seems obvious.  How about
>>>some other cases?  Not always so easy.  Sometimes, they take a while to act out
>>>the starring role rather than a somewhat calmer pseudo-nym.
>>>
>>>There are ways to identify them besides guessing.  It is not always clear what
>>>to do about someone who joins back under another alias.  What if they should
>>>always behave themselves as model citizens, even though we know who they are?
>>>
>>>I think that they should still be suspended until it is lifted officially by
>>>CCC, but not everyone may have the same viewpoint.  And there clearly are two
>>>sides to an issue such as this.  My viewpoints are often wrong.
>>>
>>>I don't think there is any question about the identity of js.
>>
>>You've been a great moderator, Dann...I admire your wit and your sense of
>>fairness, and that of Bruce and KarinsDad as well. You and I may disagree on the
>>issue of who should be able to ban, but I agree with you wholeheartedly that the
>>aliases of those who are suspended should be suspended.
>>
>>You've heard the old saying that if you let someone break a rule, the rule gets
>>weaker. The rule became weak where ChrisW was concerned.
>>
>>Roger
>
>
>  I think he has been a lousy moderator, so has moreland, and especially
>karismom.


Hmmm... And all this time I was thinking that they were great moderators and
you were just a lousy troller.

Guess I was wrong...






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