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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 18:19:20 02/10/00

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On February 10, 2000 at 19:00:35, Dan Ellwein wrote:

>On February 10, 2000 at 17:03:30, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2000 at 16:50:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 10, 2000 at 14:35:24, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 10, 2000 at 10:52:38, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 10, 2000 at 10:13:16, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 10, 2000 at 01:04:50, Lonnie Cook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 09, 2000 at 23:30:14, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 09, 2000 at 23:00:35, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Integrated = on-die. So it should be running at the same speed as the core. But
>>>>>>>>>the design of the L2 cache may have increased latencies, so it's possible that
>>>>>>>>>it won't be as fast as some people think it "should" be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>hm.
>>>>>>>>whatever - could be a killer-cpu for cstal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have run CSTal a little Thorsten and I was getting 50-60K on mine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>on 1000 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that would be 3.3 - 4 times faster than on my k6-3/400 !
>>>>>>nice nice nice.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's because the KryoTech 1000 Mhz L2-cache runs at 400 Mhz. I hope
>>>>>my new toy will arrive tomorrow :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ed,
>>>>
>>>>When will we get a chance to see this machine in action in a GM Challenge game?
>>>>
>>>>--Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>I would hope "never".  This is not exactly the most reliable thing to do to
>>>hardware.  Remember that for every system hang you see, there were hundreds of
>>>thousands of cases where an instruction produced the wrong result but was in
>>>"user-land" where it didn't crash anything.
>>>
>>>It is incredibly risky to overclock when 'it counts'.
>>
>>Even at -40 degrees?
>
>-40 degrees? ... is that Fahrenheit or Celcius <big grin>

Presumably Fahrenheit as I read it from an American source, but it probably
isn't that big a difference as they intersect at around -35 degrees (could be
off by a couple of degrees). In other words -35 F. is about -35 C.

                                        Albert Silver

>
>Furthermore, I remember reading at Tom's Hardware that one
>>could adapt the system to use other chips, so it isn't limited the chip it comes
>>with. If one used a chip that was naturally faster, wouldn't the dangers of
>>overclocking be gradually minimized, especially at that temperature?
>>



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