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Subject: Re: JUNIOR 6

Author: Chessfun

Date: 21:47:46 02/10/00

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On February 11, 2000 at 00:20:19, blass uri wrote:

>On February 10, 2000 at 22:24:51, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2000 at 21:02:28, george m bodkin wrote:
>>
>>>THINKING OF GETTING JUNIOR6. HAS ANYBODY FOUND ANY BUGS YET? AND IS SO WHAT
>>>PROGRAM IS THE BEST TO BUY?
>>
>>
>>In the Cadaques tournament, it won decisively against 6 other top programs, it's
>>worsed score being 50%(against Hiarcs)-which would seem to mean that it is far
>>superior to ALL the others. This was even at 40 moves in 40 minutes-on 500
>>mhz.and junior isn't the best at blitz. Even still, that little bit longer makes
>>it way and beyond!
>>   But I don't understand why the same thing isn't happening in other
>>tournaments. I mean what's going on by Jorn Gronemans tournament? The results
>>seem a little strange. Maybe it's the older junior 6, or some other handicap. Or
>>very strange flukes.
>
>How many games did Junior play in Jorn Gronemans tournament?
>I guess that the number of games is clearly smaller relative to the number of
>games in Cadaques tournament.
>
>The difference between programs is not big enough to know by results of few
>games which program is better.
>
>>But if that is well answered up by someone, then it looks
>>like junior is top for serious play.
>>  I'm also wondering why Dr. Hyatt feels that ferret is the best program,(under
>>deep blue) and how crafty won the tournament in which junior also took
>>part(didn't it-in the end?) Any answers to any of the above will be welcomed by
>>many.
>>  S.Taylor.
>
>Junior also lost games in Cadaques tournament and it can happen in a tournament
>In the tournament that crafty won the only loss of Junior was with black against
>crafty.
>
>Junior also agreed to a draw too early against nimzo in this tournament when it
>had practical chances to win.
>
>Crafty is not a weak program and was not tested in the Cadaques tournament.
>It is not clear to me if Bob hyatt believe that Ferret is the best program.
>It has better rating than Junior in ICC but Ferret has an hardware advantage.
>
>Uri

Any of the top programs IMHO can win a swiss type tourney.
Junior 6 also won my 40'/40 + 40'/40 + 40' 10 round tourney.
All games can be downloaded from my website.
This was the non upgrade.
Currently I started a 1 hr/game side tourney 10 rounds
with J6a, J6, F6, F6Old, H732, N732, Crafty 17-07, Comet B13,
I will likely add LG2000V2 if I can get the winboard adapter
to work.
Thanks.






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