Author: stuart taylor
Date: 03:00:31 02/11/00
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On February 11, 2000 at 00:47:46, Chessfun wrote: >On February 11, 2000 at 00:20:19, blass uri wrote: > >>On February 10, 2000 at 22:24:51, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On February 10, 2000 at 21:02:28, george m bodkin wrote: >>> >>>>THINKING OF GETTING JUNIOR6. HAS ANYBODY FOUND ANY BUGS YET? AND IS SO WHAT >>>>PROGRAM IS THE BEST TO BUY? >>> >>> >>>In the Cadaques tournament, it won decisively against 6 other top programs, it's >>>worsed score being 50%(against Hiarcs)-which would seem to mean that it is far >>>superior to ALL the others. This was even at 40 moves in 40 minutes-on 500 >>>mhz.and junior isn't the best at blitz. Even still, that little bit longer makes >>>it way and beyond! >>> But I don't understand why the same thing isn't happening in other >>>tournaments. I mean what's going on by Jorn Gronemans tournament? The results >>>seem a little strange. Maybe it's the older junior 6, or some other handicap. Or >>>very strange flukes. >> >>How many games did Junior play in Jorn Gronemans tournament? >>I guess that the number of games is clearly smaller relative to the number of >>games in Cadaques tournament. >> >>The difference between programs is not big enough to know by results of few >>games which program is better. >> >>>But if that is well answered up by someone, then it looks >>>like junior is top for serious play. >>> I'm also wondering why Dr. Hyatt feels that ferret is the best program,(under >>>deep blue) and how crafty won the tournament in which junior also took >>>part(didn't it-in the end?) Any answers to any of the above will be welcomed by >>>many. >>> S.Taylor. >> >>Junior also lost games in Cadaques tournament and it can happen in a tournament >>In the tournament that crafty won the only loss of Junior was with black against >>crafty. >> >>Junior also agreed to a draw too early against nimzo in this tournament when it >>had practical chances to win. >> >>Crafty is not a weak program and was not tested in the Cadaques tournament. >>It is not clear to me if Bob hyatt believe that Ferret is the best program. >>It has better rating than Junior in ICC but Ferret has an hardware advantage. >> >>Uri > >Any of the top programs IMHO can win a swiss type tourney. >Junior 6 also won my 40'/40 + 40'/40 + 40' 10 round tourney. >All games can be downloaded from my website. >This was the non upgrade. >Currently I started a 1 hr/game side tourney 10 rounds >with J6a, J6, F6, F6Old, H732, N732, Crafty 17-07, Comet B13, >I will likely add LG2000V2 if I can get the winboard adapter >to work. >Thanks. That sounds very scientific of you. I would love to see the results. In Gronemans tournament, very many programs seem to be slated to play only seven games. (It is called a Swiss tournament.) If so, I suppose it would be full of holes. Not every program will play every other even once. But still, the results look like flukes-not in juniors favour. Uri Blass seems to have a very healthy attitude of not expecting things to be too surprising too quickly. S.Taylor
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