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Subject: Re: More Bronstein and a little Fischer

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 06:41:28 02/11/00

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On February 11, 2000 at 06:12:45, stuart taylor wrote:

>On February 10, 2000 at 22:44:48, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2000 at 22:35:08, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On February 10, 2000 at 16:55:44, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 10, 2000 at 16:35:20, C Morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Bronstein seemed to be saying that Chess was for everyone. He was trying to get
>>>>>the point over by pointing to the attitude of grandmasters like Botvinnik, who,
>>>>>to paraphrase Bronstein in "The Sorcerer's Apprentice", thought only they knew
>>>>>how to move a knight, push a pawn, etc. I like Bobby Fisher's attitude when he
>>>>>said, he only "believes in good moves." I just like good moves whether or not
>>>>>they come from Junior or Kasparov or a class player. I have no problems with the
>>>>>idea shared by more than a few grandmasters, that someday a computer will be
>>>>>world champion. This does not threaten anything. Just my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>If there are Grandmasters that think a program will become world champion then
>>>>they don't have a very clear idea what they're talking about.  The game of Chess
>>>>itself is between 2 people.
>>>>
>>>>Once a program enters the picture, that's a different story.  Having a human
>>>>Chess world champion and having a computer Chess world champion are 2 different
>>>>things completely.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>  Dosen't world champion mean best player? Atleast isn't that what such a
>>>grandmaster(or any person) would be meaning to infer?
>>>   S.Taylor.
>>
>>Second question isn't very clear, and they appear to be linked together too
>>closely to answer the first question.
>>
>>Pete
>
>Second question was refering to what you wrote.
>But at any rate, can't Best chess-playing entity be man or machine?
>S.Taylor

No.  The best living Chess player has to be a man or woman.  The best machine
Chess player could be anything machine.  I'm not saying that a computer won't
someday being significantly stronger than any human, it seems like we're very
close to that happening now.  But the point of the game is to play Chess against
other Chess players, not against a computer, that's why there's a distinction.

See Dave's response and also Karinsdad's response, I like the perspective that
they both give.

Pete



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