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Subject: Re: Speed vs. Knowledge Debate To Be Decided Soon

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 15:38:20 02/11/00

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On February 11, 2000 at 17:58:25, Vincent Vega wrote:

>On February 11, 2000 at 11:23:13, blass uri wrote:
>
>>I think there is an assumption that slow searchers and fast searchers have the
>>same branching factor and also that you get the same elo increase from 5 plies
>>to 6 plies and the question if you are a fast searcher or a slow searcher is not
>>relevant.
>>
>
>You're correct of course, but I never meant that the increase in strength would
>be the same for different programs with the increased ply depth.  When comparing
>the increase in strength across the programs, we should exponentially increase
>the evaluation time.
>
>>I think that the last assumption is wrong because slow searchers simply can see
>>more tactics at the same depth because a big evaluation can tell you things
>>about tactics(for example that there is a fork).
>>
>>Uri
>
>Yes, the falloff (if there is one) would occur at different ply depths for
>different programs.  But, I believe the results from one program showing the
>falloff will mean that all programs using min-max will experience the falloff
>somewhere - not necessarily at the same depth.  I think that these results would
>mean that both slow searchers and programs with big branching factor would have
>an advantage in the future.

	I do not know if slow searchers will have an advantage in the future (due to
the faster hardware) or not. But I believe that programs with a big branching
factor will have a big disadvantage in the future.
	I think that the most succesful programs with faster hardware will have a very
good search policy.
José.



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