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Subject: Re: Terrible User Interfaces in Chess Programs

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 19:52:04 02/11/00

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On February 11, 2000 at 21:24:08, Vincent Vega wrote:

>On February 11, 2000 at 20:41:59, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>That isn't very constructive criticism. It isn't that I disagree or not, but
>>could you provide some clearer examples of what you mean?
>
>Each interface has tons of problems.  DOS interfaces are beyond hope so I won't
>even comment on them.  Look at Winboard which is one of the better ones for
>example: horrible time controls - why can't I change the time during the game,
>why can't I click on the clock and just enter new time, why can't I specify
>different time for each side, why can't I take the move back and make another
>move without additional commands, why can't I change engines in the middle of
>the game, where is the opening name, why aren't impossible actions greyed out
>(load next game, etc.), why are menus used for everything, why is show thinking
>truncated, why can't I click on a move in analyze mode to make it, why can't
>importing recognize and correct errors, what's with only right-clicking to edit
>position, why is specifying whose move it is so bad, why can I drag a figure
>that can't move, why no context-sensitive help, why can't I easily switch sides,
>I could go on forever.

Winboard is amateur and not commercial. Most of the above exist in the top
current programs, but you know that, having criticized the Fritz interface for
example.

>
>>The same way someone can justify even spending anytime writing a chess program
>>that won't help their financial situation sufficiently nor justify the time
>>spent (even if it _were_ in Windows).
>
>But they can justify spending time to tweak opening books to get a measly couple
>elo (I'm talking about commercial programmers here, amateurs shouldn't worry
>about any of this)?  Hello?

You really believe that Fritz 6's interface is so bad, that it hampers sales?
That the interface of Shredder 4 (and therefore Zarkov 5, Genius 6.5 and Wchess
2000) is so convioluted in its handling that users will knock somewhere else?
These are a few of the commercial representatives after all.

>
>
>>Big words from an anonymous account. I can't imagine anyone asking Tarantino for
>>your address to help design the newest super GUI for their chess program. In
>>other words it is difficult to take this seriously without any credentials. No
>>offense intended.
>
>I don't feel like losing the contract to satisfy you.  Sorry.

Lose the contract? I thought you said you had just finished it. I presumed that
to mean that the program was on the market and not dependent on your anonymity
in its participation.

                                     Albert Silver




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