Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:44:03 02/12/00
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On February 11, 2000 at 23:18:50, KarinsDad wrote: >On February 11, 2000 at 04:25:56, Alvaro Polo wrote: > >[snip] >> >>A motorcycle uses a pilot. A computer uses an operator. There is a big >>difference. I believe that motorcycles companies say that they are world >>champion, as a publicity trick, although it is not correct. >> >>Alvaro >> > >Ok, I will use a different example. There is a competition held each year to see >if a computer controlled "paddle" can play ping pong. Currently, I could beat >any of those machines. But in 10 years, who knows? Maybe those machines will >beat anyone on the planet. Should those machines then be considered the ping >pong champions of the world? > >The question may be a little more obscure than chess since it is a machine >performing physical actions. > >One day, there may be humanoid robots. When they become dexterous enough to do >anything that man can do, will they take away all of the world championship >titles? > >Like I said before, there can be any type of competition that anyone wants. But >world championships imply human-human competition. IMO. > >A human-computer chess championship is totally different than the world >championships. In the first case, it is human chess skill vs. human programming >skill. In the second case, it is human chess skill vs. human chess skill. As you >said, "There is a big difference." > >KarinsDad :) I think chess is different. Chess is a human endeavor, not suited to machines. I personally feel that if any machine can produce greater chess wisdom than a human, then the human may justifiably feel challenged by it. And that is what I'm waiting to see with baited breath-if it can happen. In fact I don't think there is any other endeavor that human can meet machine, moreso than chess! The world championship should be a human. But a human I think cannot have a clean conscience if machine is doing better. I'm also saying that deep blue has a long way to go to seriously challenge Kasparov on equal terms. (But it is necesary that the human should not be claiming that he didn't have enough time to think, as this is a different problem) Stuart Taylor
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