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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 13:28:41 02/13/00

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On February 13, 2000 at 11:05:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 13, 2000 at 03:15:12, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On February 12, 2000 at 19:53:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I don't believe they are doing this.  They are applying -40c to the cpu, but
>>>the heat it is producing prevents the cpu from getting to -40 during operation,
>>>I'd bet.  I'd bet the real cpu temp is well over 0c, if it has a temp
>>>thermocouple as my xeons. do.  My xeons run at about 106F under heavy load,
>>>for a reference.
>>
>>Possibly. I wouldn't know. If they aren't getting the CPU down to -40, then I
>>don't see why they would be taking such precautions against condensation.
>>(Somebody else posted about this yesterday.)
>
>
>
>quite simply.  The "cold box" attached to the cpu is removing heat by spraying
>freon into a small chamber where  it evaporates and takes the temp down to about
>-40c.  The cpu is providing enough heat that this temperature is never reached,
>which is the point of the device.  If you shut the cpu off, you have a block of

If it takes the temp down to -40, then how is this temperature never reached?

>>Regardless of the actual temperature, it's obviously going to be much cooler
>>than a normal computer. And that makes switching times go down. And that's what
>>matters.
>
>I'd bet that the difference is in picoseconds, not nanoseconds, which doesn't
>help a whole lot.  What matters is that they can up Vcc without burning the
>thing up.

Only a few days ago you didn't even realize that temperature affected switching
times. Now you are willing to bet about how much they are affected? I think this
is suspect.

Do you know for a fact that they are increasing Vcc? Maybe they aren't. I'd like
to see a quote from AMD or Kryotech.

-Tom



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