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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:27:34 02/13/00

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On February 13, 2000 at 23:30:15, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 13, 2000 at 23:10:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2000 at 21:32:05, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2000 at 20:40:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Do the math again.  If you run at 1ghz (1ns) and drop the temp 40 degrees,
>>>>and pick up 10 picoseconds, that doesn't make much of a difference.  If you
>>>
>>>For some reason you seem to think that there's only one gate switch per clock
>>>cycle...
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>No I don't.  I factored in up to 100 gates/clock, just for an upper limit
>>and got 10%.  10% doesn't come anywhere near 33% that Kryotech is getting
>>with the Athlon...
>
>Well, we know that the Athlon runs at 850MHz without special cooling.
>
>So if you figure a clock = 850MHz = 1.176 ns = 100 gates, then 1 gate takes
>11.76 ps.
>
>To get to 1GHz, then 1 gate has to take 10 ps.
>
>So you're saying that a huge drop in temperature could not possibly lower the
>switching time from 11.76 ps to 10 ps?
>
>Of course, this totally ignores the fact that AMD may be giving Kryotech
>specially sorted chips that have no problems running > 850MHz.
>
>If I have time tonight, I might try to work out some of the math to see how much
>of an effect temperature can have.
>
>-Tom


Before you pop off, why don't you visit Kryo's web page?  They claim to be
using 750mhz parts.  So they are overclocking by 33%.  No I don't think dropping
the temp 40 degrees will get anywhere near that.  Otherwise we would be up to
our armpits in such machines.  Even new crays still use air-cooling.  Reckon
they would take advantage of that if it existed?




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