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Subject: Re: Mate in ...?

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 08:04:54 02/14/00

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On February 13, 2000 at 18:02:20, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 12, 2000 at 10:18:44, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hello!
>>
>>Please give your position that contain mate between 4 and 8 moves. Would like to
>>know the speed at which usually logic solve mates. I did this four years ago,
>>but then I was alone. Now data could be more diversified and useful for me as
>>for somebody else.
>>
>>Until now positions presented here were almost all the time beyond 9 moves (18
>>plies). This make solution too long to find.
>>
>>Please indicate your hardware and your game.
>>
>>I will give,  for start, one very simple position that contain mate in 6 moves.
>>White to go.
>>
>>/1q2kr2/rB2bbp1/3p1n2/1NpP2BN/P4P1p/1P2Q3/6PP/R3K2R/ White to go.
>>
>>Thanks for your next position!
>>Leonid.
>
>This is from George Koltanowski's book "TV Chess".  It is a mate in 10 with 4
>underpromotions to a Knight.  It is one of my favorites.  I was surprised to
>find in the late 80's that the Fidelity Champion Sensory Challenger would solve
>this problem in about 42 seconds.  Todays programs will solve this in less than
>1 second.
>
>[D]7K/P1p1p1p1/2P1P1Pk/6pP/3p2P1/1P6/3P4/8 w - - 0 1

Hey, that one is beautiful!  But also very easy for a chess program,
because of the hard to avoid stalemates.  Chest on P/133 with 10 MB hash
uses 0.06 seconds (and not more than 1003 moves/nodes) to find

 a8=N d3 Nb6 cxb6 c7 b5 c8=N b4 Nd6 exd6 e7 d5 e8=N d4 Nf6 gxf6 g7 f5 g8=N#

Other programs will also find this one easy.

>Jim Walker

Thanks!  Heiner



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