Author: Vincent Vega
Date: 16:44:10 02/14/00
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On February 14, 2000 at 10:59:15, Steve Lopez wrote: >On February 14, 2000 at 02:11:42, Vincent Vega wrote: > >>On February 14, 2000 at 01:19:48, Steve Lopez wrote: >> >>>Incorrect (for the thousanth time). If IE is not on the computer, all that needs >>>be installed are a couple of Microsoft DLLs, which are included with Fritz6 as >>>part of the installation. >>> >>>I don't know where this rumor that Fritz6 requires IE got started (probably with >>>Netscape evangelists), but constantly correcting it is getting pretty old. >>> >>>-- Steve Lopez >>> >>>The Chess Kamikaze Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/ludekdudek/ >>>The Chess Kamikaze Club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chesskamikazes >> >>This misunderstanding can only be made if a person doesn't know much about how >>IE works. Fact: those "couple DLLs" you dismiss so easily are Internet >>Explorer's guts. Find iexplore.exe and look at it: it is just a couple calls to >>start the services in those very DLLs. Look at its size: 78,272 bytes on my >>computer. Do you really believe that that's all that's required to make such a >>complex browser? If you give me a computer with those DLLs installed I can >>remake IE in a couple minutes, only thing missing will be extras. >> >>If you still have any doubts that I'm telling you the truth, do the following >>experiment: go to Fritz, press F1, right click on the help window's title bar, >>select "Jump to URL" from the menu, enter http://www.yahoo.com. What do you >>get? You can right click in that page to get all your favorite controls from >>IE. I'd love to hear your explanation how this page got there if IE isn't >>sitting fully functional on your computer. >> >>OK, here it is from the horse's mouth >>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/tools/htmlhelp/wkshp/faq.htm): >> >>Do I need Microsoft Internet Explorer to use HTML Help? >>The HTML Help ActiveX control requires that Internet Explorer be set up on a >>user's computer. HTML Help works with Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.02, but to >>take advantage of the full functionality of HTML Help, you should use the latest >>release of Internet Explorer. HTML Help does not require that you use Internet >>Explorer as your default browser. >> >>--- >> >>The option to use DLLs instead of full IE install makes sense because a user may >>not want to have IE icon on a desktop or may not want to change the default >>browser just to use HTML help. It doesn't change the fact that everything >>needed to make IE work is indeed installed. >> >>And just to make sure you know where I come from, I believe that IE is currently >>a superior browser to Netscape (may change with Netscape 6.0 based on Mozilla) >>and I write this in IE. > >The problem is with the way you and a few others in the past have worded it: you >make it sound like users of browsers other than IE have to give up their >favorite browser and use IE -- and this just isn't so. And each time this rumor >pops up, my mailbox is flooded with e-mails from outraged Netscape users who >were considering purchasing Fritz "but not if it means I have to stop using >Netscape" etc. etc. > >In any event, one can still always still use the old Win95 style help files >instead of the HTML style ones (if using a couple of Microsoft DLLs is somehow >considered to be an imposition). If your installation didn't come with these >help files, they can be downloaded at www.chessbase.com > >-- Steve Lopez > The fact is that IE is being installed. All the evidence I cited proves it. I don't make it sound like anybody has to stop using Netscape so I'd appreciate if you don't imply that I do. You said, "IE is not on the computer," which is not true, as my experiment proves. DLLs are the code, just like EXEs, only difference is that they are in the library form. I'm am not the only one that knows the facts, it's a common knowledge among Windows programmers. Post a message on any Windows programming board or newsgroup asking whether HTML Help requires IE and you'll get the same answer (or maybe you'll get ignored because you haven't read the FAQ and it has been discussed many times before).
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