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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Peter Kasinski

Date: 20:49:03 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 22:21:47, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 20:16:16, Peter Kasinski wrote:
>
>>Tom,
>>
>>This is true for bus speeds higher than 75MHz. Reports of Celerons not working
>>at 75MHz bus speed mostly turn out to be non-CPU related. A video card or IDE
>>controller failing, etc.
>>
>>But that's not the point. No one over-clocks if they can't boot the PC after
>>that. And if they can, running Winstone (or such like) for 24 hours to see if
>>the system is stable answers that question quite well. Again, I am NOT talking
>>about pushing the envelope. Only about repeating what thousands have done.
>>
>>BTW, I read here that in Paderborn Shredder ran on a dual Celeron 563 MHz.
>>Sounds like Stefan is one of these people, doesn't it?
>>
>>cheers,
>>PK
>
>I'm just saying that you can't always overclock Celerons.
>
>Let's say you're Intel. You make a batch of Celerons that will not run above
>400MHz. Do you throw them all out, or do you sell them as 400MHz parts? You
>obviously sell them. So all I'm saying is that there are definitely some
>Celerons that can not be overclocked.
>
>IMO, overclocking your FSB to 75MHz is an absolutely stupid idea. That means
>you're also overclocking your memory and your PCI cards, among other things. The
>chance that everything will be stable is almost nil. And it's obviously no good
>for your computer.



This is preposterous. People around the world (mostly in places where folks
don't get to trade their computer for the newest model every year) have been
doing this for years.

The notion that they all do something “absolutely stupid” by not yielding to
what often is nothing more than a marketing ploy (like releasing under-marked
chips) is boring. Most motherboard manufacturers today release boards supporting
bus speeds in 1 MHz increments. Why do you suppose they do that? And where
exactly do you buy memory chips afraid of 75 MHz anyway?

Again, I read it here that Shredder in Paderborn ran on a dual Celeron 563.
That’s 7.5 x 75MHz. Absolutely stupid? I think not.

Recommended sites:
http://www.tomshardware.com/
http://www.anandtech.com/

PK


>
>A much smarter thing to do is to get a BX board, which is designed to drive a
>processor at 100MHz while maintaining appropriate memory/PCI speeds.
>
>-Tom



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