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Subject: Re: Mate in ...?

Author: Andreas Stabel

Date: 04:40:32 02/15/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 17:39:42, leonid wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 11:29:23, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>On February 14, 2000 at 05:08:22, Andreas Stabel wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2000 at 18:02:20, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 12, 2000 at 10:18:44, leonid wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>This is from George Koltanowski's book "TV Chess".  It is a mate in 10 with 4
>>>>underpromotions to a Knight.  It is one of my favorites.  I was surprised to
>>>>find in the late 80's that the Fidelity Champion Sensory Challenger would solve
>>>>this problem in about 42 seconds.  Todays programs will solve this in less than
>>>>1 second.
>>>>
>>>>[D]7K/P1p1p1p1/2P1P1Pk/6pP/3p2P1/1P6/3P4/8 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Jim Walker
>>>
>>>This is a nice variation on the same position the I made from another
>>>variation on this position :)
>>>Note the nice queen moves at the end, and that promoting to a knight the
>>>third time will not work.
>>>
>>>[D]8/1p1p1p1p/3P1P2/pp5P/kp6/1p4P1/1P4P1/2K5 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Andreas Stabel
>>
>>Ah, I like it!  It is a mate in 16.  Chest on P/133 with 10 MB hash table
>>needs 1.15 seconds to find the main variation:
>>
>> g4 h6 g5 hxg5 h6 b6   h7 g4   h8=N g3 Ng6  fxg6 f7    g5 f8=N
>> g4 Ne6 dxe6 d7 e5 d8=Q e4 Qb8 e3 Qxg3 e2 Kd2 =*= Qxe1 g3 Qa1#
>>
>>Complete solution tree in 1.67 seconds.  Wow.
>>
>>Heiner
>
>Now I see why my logic could not touch it. It is too deep to see. My mate logic
>goes only 13 moves deep. But compose position as deep as 16 moves is a real
>challenge. Well done!
>
>Leonid.

Thanks, my only regret is that this is an illegal position. The configuration
of black pawns can never be reached in an actual game.
Notice the nice mate in 6 for white if black answers 1. g4 with 1... b6 !

The position I made this problem from is the following with white to move
and win. Note that it is NOT a mate in n problem.

[D]8/pp1p1p2/1p1P1P2/k7/8/1p4p1/1P4PP/2K5 w - - 0 1

Here it will work to promote to a knight the last time also, but if you
choose to promote to a queen, the mate will be the same as in my mate in
16 problem. This is of course asuming that plays for a stalemate, and close
up the king position completely.

Best regards
Andreas Stabel



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