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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:22:38 02/15/00

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On February 15, 2000 at 20:13:13, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 15, 2000 at 17:50:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>However, Intel chips do work.  AMD chips sometimes work.  They make their share
>>of mistakes (PII-compatible when they are most definitely not, for example).
>
>I don't know about "sometimes working." For every Athlon bug, I'm sure I can
>point to an equivalently serious PIII bug. How about those CuMines that Intel
>shipped that had to be turned on multiple times before they started working?
>That sounds like the epitome of "sometimes working" to me. Heh.
>
>>The profit comes from businesses and repeat customers.  I notice that hardly
>>any major corporations use AMD processors in their office machines.  Which makes
>
>I think this tune might change. Imagine being an IT person responsible for
>purchasing several hundred computers. You can either buy PIII/800s that will be
>shipped an undetermined number of months from now, or Athlon/850s, that are
>cheaper and can be shipped immediately...

I'm not sure I follow that.  I _have_ an 800mhz PIII from gateway.  We just
picked up the phone last week, said we want a PIII/800, 512M ram, two Intel
server (express pro 100) cards, etc.  It arrived 3 days later.  These things
are shipping.  It is a gateway something-or-other model 4200, and we bought
it for about 2200 bucks counting the dual ethernets, etc (we are going to make
a linux firewall out of it).

I can tell you what happens on this campus if you suggest buying 'oddball'
hardware...  you don't work here much longer.  There is _great_ resistance to
tried-and-unproven hardware in the UAB hospital.  If you order off-brand
hardware, then there is specific paperwork that has to be done, certifying
that you know that support will be minimal, that it can't be used in a uab-
critical application, etc...

Most businesses have _always_ bought IBM equipment, even though you could
get 2x the hardware for 1/2 the cost from DEC, Univac, Burrougs, Honeywell,
Xerox, etc.  It is the reputation that counts...  the name...  not what is
inside...


>
>AMD's sales in January were as high as they were in December. Things are
>_definitely_ picking up for them.
>
>Next year, consumers will have a choice between the Itanium and the
>Sledgehammer. I sure know which one I'd choose.
>
>>>BTW, Bob, I don't appreciate the snide little phrases that preface your posts.
>>>Like "Tom, please." and "Tom, read my lips carefully." Do you really need to
>>>make condescension part of your debate strategy? Hmmmm....
>>Wasn't intending it to be condescending... only a way of emphasizing a point
>>that is easy to miss.  Sorry...
>
>Well, please don't do it any more. I can read perfectly fine.
>
>-Tom



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