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Subject: Re: Question about Rebel strength Tiger/Century

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 23:49:59 02/15/00

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On February 16, 2000 at 01:19:02, odell hall wrote:

>On February 16, 2000 at 00:07:47, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2000 at 16:43:42, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
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>>>On February 15, 2000 at 16:27:29, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>Tiger is NOT focused on comp-comp games. It happens to do well in comp-comp,
>>>
>>>Nice understatement. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>>but
>>>>it has not been designed with this in mind.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I stand corrected.
>>>
>>>Point was of course that it's not easy to compare engines on such a one-to-one
>>>basis. If Kasparov is rated 150 points higher that John Doe, but John Doe
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>never
>>>lost one of his 1500 games against Kasparov, it can be a tricky question.
>>>Obviously, John Doe is a Kasparov-man. It was not by choice, but the result is
>>>the same. Since we have Elo lists, we say : Kasparov is the strongest.
>>>(very small print: some say Fischer still is...:))
>>
>>
>>(even smaller prints: reminds me of someone claiming that CM6000 is still the
>>best)
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>>;) :)
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>>(sorry Michael) ;)
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>>>From time to time they pop up -  the strongest, the best, you know, but it has
>>>more nuance than "which one is stronger?" . If we say SSDF rules, we should say:
>>>you can't compare, because they're not both in the list.
>>>At that time we resort to other measures, like playing style.
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>>
>>I personally find the playing style of Rebel much more enjoyable that the
>>playing style of Rebel-Tiger.
>>
>>And I think that is one of the reason why Rebel does so good against
>>GrandMasters: it has a damn good positional style. You almost never find a
>>position that Rebel does not understand.
>>
>>Rebel-Tiger (Chess Tiger engine) plays solid chess, but games are not as
>>exciting.
>>
>>One amazing experiment: let Rebel play against Rebel-Tiger. I did this once, and
>>it was very very interesting. Fireworks all the time, very undecided games until
>>the last move.
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>>I do not know why it is so, but these two really spit electricity when they have
>>to play each other.
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>>    Christophe
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>
>  I agree I think Chess Tiger is basically a Glorified Chess Genius



I take it as a compliment. Can I?



    Christophe



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