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Subject: Re: Question about Rebel strength Tiger/Century

Author: odell hall

Date: 00:37:22 02/16/00

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On February 16, 2000 at 02:49:59, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On February 16, 2000 at 01:19:02, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2000 at 00:07:47, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On February 15, 2000 at 16:43:42, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 15, 2000 at 16:27:29, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Tiger is NOT focused on comp-comp games. It happens to do well in comp-comp,
>>>>
>>>>Nice understatement. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but
>>>>>it has not been designed with this in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I stand corrected.
>>>>
>>>>Point was of course that it's not easy to compare engines on such a one-to-one
>>>>basis. If Kasparov is rated 150 points higher that John Doe, but John Doe
>>
>>
>>never
>>>>lost one of his 1500 games against Kasparov, it can be a tricky question.
>>>>Obviously, John Doe is a Kasparov-man. It was not by choice, but the result is
>>>>the same. Since we have Elo lists, we say : Kasparov is the strongest.
>>>>(very small print: some say Fischer still is...:))
>>>
>>>
>>>(even smaller prints: reminds me of someone claiming that CM6000 is still the
>>>best)
>>>
>>>;) :)
>>>
>>>(sorry Michael) ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From time to time they pop up -  the strongest, the best, you know, but it has
>>>>more nuance than "which one is stronger?" . If we say SSDF rules, we should say:
>>>>you can't compare, because they're not both in the list.
>>>>At that time we resort to other measures, like playing style.
>>>
>>>
>>>I personally find the playing style of Rebel much more enjoyable that the
>>>playing style of Rebel-Tiger.
>>>
>>>And I think that is one of the reason why Rebel does so good against
>>>GrandMasters: it has a damn good positional style. You almost never find a
>>>position that Rebel does not understand.
>>>
>>>Rebel-Tiger (Chess Tiger engine) plays solid chess, but games are not as
>>>exciting.
>>>
>>>One amazing experiment: let Rebel play against Rebel-Tiger. I did this once, and
>>>it was very very interesting. Fireworks all the time, very undecided games until
>>>the last move.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I do not know why it is so, but these two really spit electricity when they have
>>>to play each other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>  I agree I think Chess Tiger is basically a Glorified Chess Genius
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>
>
>I take it as a compliment. Can I?
>
>
>
>    Christophe


  Yes ofcourse. It is much better than Chess Genius but has the same Solid
Style. I prefer more lively play but I can respect the Karpov style also.



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