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Subject: Re: After this tournament Deep Junior level is without question at GM

Author: odell hall

Date: 19:56:11 02/16/00

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On February 16, 2000 at 22:44:08, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On February 16, 2000 at 22:09:36, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2000 at 22:00:11, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     I still think that your overplaying the importance of time! Sure I will
>>>agree that there is a huge difference between 5 0 chess or even 30 0 chess,
>>>compared with 40\2.  But I don't think the difference is so great between 60 0
>>>and 40/2.  One hour is more than enough time for a Grandmaster to apply his so
>>>called- Superior Chess knowledge, Many grandmasters calculate with incredible
>>>speed and are much less likely to be beat on a tactical shot. If you notice the
>>>three games that deep junior has played, he has won none of the games on
>>>Cheapo's or due to petty oversights by the GM's. A few Grandmasters even
>>>commented on Deep Junior Positional play. I find it hard to see how you can
>>>suggest that the grandmasters will rise in strength by 300 rating points going
>>>from 60 0 to 40/2.  We are all chess players here, and I think most of us
>>>realize that there is not much difference between 60 0 and 40/2, although I do
>>>concede that there is a difference but I would say maybe a 50 point rating
>>>increase is more reasonable, rather than the 300+ points that you suggest. BTW I
>>>would appreciate an intelligent response devoid of insults or sarcastic remarks.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>Absolute rubbish!,
>>
>>In 40/120, an IM or a GM will sit for 10 or 20 minutes on a single move at the
>>vital point of the game.  There are regularly moves that take 5-10 minutes.
>>
>>These are the very important moves, the moves that make it a 40/120 Tournament
>>game by an IM or GM.  The IM or GM cannot afford that sort of time consumption
>>in Game in 60.
>>
>>While what you say is correct for most moves of a game, it is completely wrong
>>for the most important moves.
>>
>>Tina Long
>
>
>Well said, Tina.  The problem with sudden death time controls is that it makes
>time-management very tricky.  You're taking a huge risk if you stop for even a
>10 minute think in a critical position.
>
>GMs spend most of their careers playing 40 moves in 2 hours, so they are
>well-tuned to that time control.   I'd guess that they play ~100-150 ELO points
>weaker at G/60.
>
>--Peter


 And that's exactly all you have is a "guess" There is absolutely no evidence to
substantiate your assertions, Kaufman believes I might mention that the
differnce is more like 65 points, but that is going from 30 0 to 40/2.



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