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Subject: Re: some thoughts on junior 6a: an unbiased report from yahoo

Author: Timothy J. Frohlick

Date: 14:11:51 02/17/00

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On February 17, 2000 at 14:59:01, robert michelena wrote:

>It my be folly to go against the "junior is great" bandwagon, but after more
>then 200 games played by several friends who have purchased and used junior 6a
>in yahoo's advanced lounges, the concensus among the users (such as yours truly)
>is that junior 6a is overrated; its good, but not great.
>
>Generally speaking, most of the players who have purchased junior are in a foul
>mood indeed.  Junior6a's style is quiet, bordering on the irrelevent.  Indeed,
>fritz6a seems to be superior.   My observations, as well as that of the others
>who use programs in yahoo, is that for games from 10 to 15 minutes per side ,
>chess tiger and fritz 6a are clearly the best, with chessmaster 7000 and
>shredder 4 posting impressive results.  For blitz games, 5 minutes or less per
>side, hiarcs 732 as well as chessmaster 6000.  for games over 25 minutes per
>side, Nimzo 732.
>
>Those who have purchased junior 6 and installed the patch to make it 6a are not
>sure if the settings have to be tinkered with, or if perhaps some abberations in
>these tournaments proved serendipitous for junior.  Whatever the case may be,
>junior 6a, at least in yahoo adv, is not dominating.


Mr. Michelena,

I recall that Laurence Chen made the comment about Junior 6a being inferior to
Hiarcs 7.32 at blitz.  I find that same pattern on my 333Mhz PII for games up to
10 minutes per side.  I am not so sure that you can call Juniors style quiet as
its style parameters are highly adjustable.

The true test of course is how the program plays against humans and not other
computers.


Tim Frohlick



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