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Subject: Re: some thoughts on junior 6a: an unbiased report from yahoo

Author: Dan Kiski

Date: 07:21:24 02/18/00

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On February 17, 2000 at 14:59:01, robert michelena wrote:

>It my be folly to go against the "junior is great" bandwagon, but after more
>then 200 games played by several friends who have purchased and used junior 6a
>in yahoo's advanced lounges, the concensus among the users (such as yours truly)
>is that junior 6a is overrated; its good, but not great.

It is not folly. Yet to make statements without showing the games is another
thing. I have been to Yahoo and watched you personally over and over play
moves and then say "Ohhh _____ wrong move" do these games count as well?.

>Generally speaking, most of the players who have purchased junior are in a foul
>mood indeed.  Junior6a's style is quiet, bordering on the irrelevent.  Indeed,
>fritz6a seems to be superior.   My observations, as well as that of the others
>who use programs in yahoo, is that for games from 10 to 15 minutes per side ,
>chess tiger and fritz 6a are clearly the best, with chessmaster 7000 and
>shredder 4 posting impressive results.

10-15 minutes a game...ha, when was it anyone claimed Junior 6a was great at
these times?.

>For blitz games, 5 minutes or less per
>side, hiarcs 732 as well as chessmaster 6000.

Same here, since when were 5 min games a norm.

>for games over 25 minutes per
>side, Nimzo 732.

I challenge you to show more than 40 games of Nimzo 732 at over 25 minutes
showing it's results better than Junior 6a at the same time controls.

>
>Those who have purchased junior 6 and installed the patch to make it 6a are not
>sure if the settings have to be tinkered with, or if perhaps some abberations >in these tournaments proved serendipitous for junior.  Whatever the case may >be, junior 6a, at least in yahoo adv, is not dominating.

How would it dominate when you play with these times?.
I have seen these "Yahoo" players and watched these games of yours and others.
I notice that:
a) The correct opening books are never used.
b) Operators making endless mistakes.
c) Most claim to be people contrary to your other statements.
d) Most games are less than 30 minutes.
e) The number of games played do not validate any statement you make.




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