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Subject: Re: Future man-machine events; inherent problems?

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 07:45:22 02/18/00

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On February 18, 2000 at 07:53:02, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 18, 2000 at 03:56:03, Mig wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Personally I think they have tremendous public appeal. Man against machine ....
>>> Remember Deep Blue and all the publicity and public interest that was
>>> generated. I think the Sponsors/GM's are overlooking a big opportunity to cash
>>> in by not playing against comps. But they have to have the courage to play.
>>> The truth is time is running out on the select human GM club. They should belly
>>> up to the bar while it is still open because closing time is getting closer
>>> every day.
>>
>>What many people fail to understand is that many GMs actively dislike playing
>>public games, even exhibition games, against computers. There are many different
>>reasons and few stem from simply not wanting to lose. They lose to other humans
>>all the time. One is that they don't enjoy the games nearly as much because the
>>entire psychological element is gone. The exciting competitive drive is
>>practically irrelevant, you just don't get as juiced up to play a machine.
>>
>>Calling them chicken is beside the point. They have almost nothing to gain and
>>since everyone still makes a big deal out of it when they lose, (Rebel - Anand,
>>Garry - Deep Blue, etc.) there is only the money. So they play for the money and
>>sometimes they don't. But saying, "just take your money and shut up" is
>>demeaning. These guys are dedicated professionals playing a game they love and
>>computers have nothing to do with why they love it.
>>
>>Man against machine is a hot ticket and I hope we will continue to find players
>>who are eager to play them. We might have to move to longer time controls,
>>however. While several GMs told me Illescas played poorly, Adams is Adams and he
>>was busted...
>>
>>Saludos, Mig
>>
>>mig@kasparovchess.com
>
>Hello Mig,
>I believe what you say is true.  The sad thing is that GM's should be trying to
>exploit the "Human vs Machine" thing now while they still can.

I like this idea of exploiting the man vs machine competition. Could mean a nice
paycheck for some high profile GM with the right marketing and sponsor.
Everyone likes a good fight. The emphasis could be but on a home computer
opponent to raise the publics interest.

 >In a few more
>years I believe machines vs humans will have no more appeal since the machines
>will easily win and must be banned from any kind of human event except maybe
>giving time odds or piece odds.  Someone should explain to them the time is now
>and if you are a professional then money is always the driving force, unless you
>are the World Champion and can afford to avoid the computers.  Most GM's are not
>in his position.
>Jim Walker



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