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Subject: Re: I will hazard a wild guess that a computer can be a GM at G/60

Author: James Robertson

Date: 09:47:58 02/18/00

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On February 18, 2000 at 02:45:01, odell hall wrote:

>On February 17, 2000 at 23:32:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2000 at 18:33:20, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>The morbid fear of playing on against Deep Junior and the "true" result against
>>>super GM players shows that (I think) at G/60, a computer does play like a GM.
>>>Maybe even a super
>>
>>
>>3-4 years ago, I would have said "You are as full of crap as a Christmas
>>turkey..."  But since then, I have greatly revised my opinion here. It
>>started when Crafty, Ferret, ChessMaster, and one other program played in
>>a round robin event on chess.net with 4 GM players.  The time control was
>>not sudden death I don't think, but was 30 something where something was
>>very short (it _might_ have been 30 0, but I don't remember).  In that
>>event, every computer played every GM.  And at the end, all the computers
>>had better scores than the best GM.  IE we owned the top 1/2 of the places,
>>the GMs owned the last 4 places.
>
>
>
>  holy cow!!!  Are we finally seeing some concessions from  Robert Hyatt!!!
>Unbelievable!!! I do believe it is a cold day in hell!!

Bob's position is and always will be defensible (I'm also replying to Bruce
Moreland's post a while ago saying that Robert Hyatt's position would soon
become indefensible). His position is basically that "Computers are not GMs now,
but will be soon."

When he finally decides that comps are GMs there are no "concessions" or
"admittances". It is merely the next step in computer chess, and his position
not only allows but says that computers will eventually be GMs.

I see no contradictions or emotions wrapped into his stance on this issue. For
this reason I see no justification in including eleven (11) exclamation points
in your post. :)

James



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