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Subject: Re: Solution, correction

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:51:41 02/18/00

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On February 18, 2000 at 09:44:59, Martin wrote:

>On February 18, 2000 at 09:40:47, Martin wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2000 at 09:36:11, Martin wrote:
>>
>>>[D]1knB4/8/7p/4R3/7K/8/3r4/7B w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>White to move. Win.
>>>
>
>Sorry, I've been a tad unconcentrated...
>
>1 Rb5+ Nb6  (Ka7 is mate in 2)  2 Bxb6 Rh2+
>3 Kg4! (not Kg3) Rxh1  4 Bg1+ Kc7  5 Rb1!
>The bR is caught. Advancing the h pawn
>only brings the wK closer to the rook.
>5... Kd7  6 Re1!
>Now the bK gets short of white squares.
>6... Kc6  7 Rd1 Kb5  8 Rc1 Ka4  9 Rb1.
>
>>Did your program find all moves?
>>
>>Martin

While I agree that most programs will not see the solution in a reasonable
amount of time, I believe they WILL find it given ENOUGH time. Chessmaster, for
instance, WILL see the solution (within a few seconds) if you plug in the first
few moves for both sides. From the above position, however, a typical chess
program will need to calculate (in my estimation) about 12 or 13 plies before
discovering the winning combination. This is quite a lot of positions to see,
given all of the pieces still on the board.

jm

p.s. I'm letting CM6000 run on the position at this time. It took 19 minutes to
get to a depth of 9/11 (and still prefers 1.Bd5, as it did from the outset), so
it could be QUITE some time before it finds the win. I'll let you know the
results if I have enough patience.... ;-)



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