Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 08:24:28 02/19/00
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On February 19, 2000 at 08:27:04, Harald Faber wrote: >On February 18, 2000 at 14:14:01, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>On February 18, 2000 at 12:41:54, Harald Faber wrote: >>>Correct! The Athlon on which Tal played is 2.3-2.6x faster than the K6-200 on >>>which Shredder4 played. >>> >>>Amazing result, isn't it? >> >>depends. shredder is world-chess-champion. what do you expect to happen ? >>what a pity that harald did not test 2x athlon or at least 2 times >>450 k6-2. >> >>so we do not know how much elo shredder is stronger on the 2.6 faster hardware. >> >>50 elo ? 70 ? 80 ? 100 ? >>we don't know. > >Certainly s.th. between 50 and 70, not less. > >>i like matches on same machines. this makes it easier for me >>to build a ranking. > >Correct. >But my match is like playing progX/200-progY/450 in SSDF, where progX wins 13-7 >which is already ELO(progY)+110. And no one denies that this difference will >increase if the match would be with progX/450 instead of progX/200. CSTal is a great program, in the sense that it is a different program. It plays exciting chess and is a lot of fun for me. I get to beat it more often than other software but it is also more fun as it plays for a win with an almost "human" wish to attack. Against humans, I would guesstimate its strength to be about 2400 ELO. However, when compared with other programs, in this case Shredder, it stands no chance in an extended match. I think that, had Shredder been assigned the superior HW in this particular case, CSTal would have been lucky to score more than a point or two out of twenty. Against computers, its strength could not be more than 2350 ELO. All this said, I have to reiterate: I love CSTal. It stands for that great romantic paradigm in chess and no program is even close. (Except for perhaps the Super Constellation in the old days...) *** Djordje
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