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Subject: Re: philosophy about "different ideas" and the outlaws of society

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 09:02:52 02/19/00

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On February 19, 2000 at 09:11:37, Harald Faber wrote:
>Correct. But do you expect the other commercials much weaker than Shredder?

the difference is important, they are different. each program has it's own
fear-opponent.
for spracklen it was mephisto-richard-lang.
for novag-kittinger it morsch.
for morsch it was gandalf.
anybody has an opponent he cannot stand.

and yes - i do believe other programs are weaker than shredder.
shredder is world chess champion. i have autoplayed myself
shredder-paderborn vs. all kind of programs.
only tiger12 was able to get 50%.


Even
>50pts would let them play 130pts over Tal.

we will see harald.


>And what is your not based on facts guess how much they would be over Tal?
>Vorsicht, Fangfrage. :-)

they are not stronger.

>Your comparisons are always wrong. Here McD sells much more so there is no need
>for a change.

chris makes much money selling cstal. you do not believe, do you?
mc_donalds believes in fast food. vincent believes in knowledge. marty
hirsch does. why should they change ?


> And the restaurant that claims to have better quality, tells their
>guests to come by Mercedes to the restaurant, otherwise they will be
>disappointed because the meals don't taste as well as promised.

right. those restaurants tell their customers by having high prices
only mercedes customers can pay.

mc_donalds has low prices and low-quality food. fits.

>Right, a VERY strong one. I haven't seen many games from Rebel so far, at the
>moment I'd say Shredder4 besides Junior6 are the strongest programs.

>However, there are worlds between Tal and Shredder but no worlds between
>Shredder/Junior and the next best programs.

when junior and shredder are as strong (see your sentence above!)
there cannot be worlds between junior or shredder.
other programs are weaker harald.

>It shouldn't be much different. Not all programs profit the same from faster
>speed.

right. but it is often diametral.

e.g. amd helps cstal but weakens fritz.
intel helps fritz but weakens amd.

you see what i mean ! it's not only that fritz does not profit from
k6-3 2 times faster, it is also that fritz is weaker on amd k6-3 because frans
morsch tuned on intel-commands.


> The SSDF ranking for 450 is not the same as for 200MHz. But very close.

right.
because for SOME programs 2 times faster is not much help.




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