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Subject: Re: Strength of CSTal

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 12:19:24 02/19/00

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On February 19, 2000 at 02:54:57, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On February 18, 2000 at 23:31:54, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>I was wondering if someone could tell where to find out about the strength of
>>CSTal.... if it could be divorced from a discussion of its programmer, that
>>would be all the better.
>>
>>If anyone has run a tournament with this engine or knows of tournaments (I think
>>someone mentioned CSTal competed in a Paris event) could they please post their
>>results here?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>James
>
>CSTal participated at the championship in Paris.
>CSTal participated at the championship in Paderborn.
>It participates in a tournament by joern gronemann, on k6-2 hardware.
>It participates in my tournament, on k6-3. Before it was in another
>tournament of mine, on k6-200 Mhz.
>It also once participated in a tournament of Mr. Wiesenecker, but he
>used as far as i know a style that was shit.
>Also in one of the chlodra/thuringen/aufsess tournaments it participated,
>on a cyrix cpu.
>
>IMO it failed to play good at mr.wieseneckers tournament (wrong style), it did
>not so good in aufsess (cyrix is to slow), in paris it was ok, also in
>paderborn. but in paderborn and paris the playing strength was
>disturbed by strange bugs, e.g. lost a won game shortly before mate
>because it underpromoted in a knight .-)
>but in paderborn it beated e.g. genius, in paris it made a draw vs. dark thought
>(dark thought running on very fast cooled alpha machines).
>
>so it is no loser at all IMO.
>it all depends on the why!
>i guess it the same with other programs.
>when there is a big bug in your program, you cannot really count
>the games for playing strength.

	I agree about the other reasons to invalidate game for playing strength except
the bugs. IMHO, bugs are integral part of a program strength (or weakness, in
this case).
José.


>but uninformed people DO count those games
>too.
>or when you run the program on slow or broken hardware , you get less good
>chances (see when junior upgraded it's machine in paris...)...



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