Author: blass uri
Date: 00:40:36 02/20/00
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On February 20, 2000 at 03:03:08, odell hall wrote: >On February 20, 2000 at 01:51:23, blass uri wrote: > >>It is not fair to count the last 3 games of Deep Junior because the system >>favour the computer's performance. >> >>The humans knew that 1:1 is probably a disaster for them and this situation >>leads them to decisions that do not give them the best result. >> >>There should be no rule of fast games against computers if people want to have >>an idea about the rating of computers at 1 hour/game >> >>It is better to use another game in the same time control or flip a coin when >>the result is 1:1 in future tournaments. >> >>Uri > > > Uri who's side are you on anyway?? I was under the obviously mistaken >impression that you were a die hard junior loyalist, now where does all this >sympathy for the humans come from, they gave junior an obvious and unmistakable >raw deal. I was in the Junior's side in the past but I stopped supporting Junior and I do not say the reason here again because I do not want to insult people. I am not against Junior but I operate Rebel Century in the Israel league so I am in the side of Rebel Century. I have no clear side that I support in this human-comuter games. I do not support the decision to give adams a win without a game but I also think that it is better not to do a third faster time control game if we want to get information about the level of computers at 1 hour/game. > You cannot make any excuses for the humans they were simply outplayed. >I did not hear the first grandmaster that Deep junior beat make any excuses when >he lost, he just admitted that he was very impressed with junior's play and >thought that it would have a 50% chance of winning the tournament, sounds like >he was right on the money. I think that it is possible that the GM's could play better if they were not in a must win situation. I do not know if the GM's play different moves because of the fact that they knew that they have to win. I believe that computers are GM strength at tounemant time control games(I guess 2550) and should have something close to 2700 at 1 hour/game. I do not agree that Junior had 50% chances to win the tournament because I believe that the fact that kasparov knows Deep Junior could give him advantage. I saw cases when Junior did mistakes that even I do not do and I believe that kasparov is smart enough to lead Deep Junior to positions that it does not understand in 1 hour/game. Uri
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