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Subject: Re: about game/60 rating of chess programs

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:40:36 02/20/00

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On February 20, 2000 at 03:03:08, odell hall wrote:

>On February 20, 2000 at 01:51:23, blass uri wrote:
>
>>It is not fair to count the last 3 games of Deep Junior because the system
>>favour the computer's performance.
>>
>>The humans knew that 1:1 is probably a disaster for them and this situation
>>leads them to decisions that do not give them the best result.
>>
>>There should be no rule of fast games against computers if people want to have
>>an idea about the rating of computers at 1 hour/game
>>
>>It is better to use another game in the same time control or flip a coin when
>>the result is 1:1 in future tournaments.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
> Uri who's side are you on anyway?? I was under the obviously mistaken
>impression that you were a die hard junior loyalist, now where does all this
>sympathy for the humans come from, they gave junior an obvious and unmistakable
>raw deal.

I was in the Junior's side in the past but
I stopped supporting Junior and I do not say the reason here again because
I do not want to insult people.

I am not against Junior but I operate Rebel Century in the Israel league so I am
in the side of Rebel Century.

I have no clear side that I support in this human-comuter games.
I do not support the decision to give adams a win without a game but I also
think that it is better not to do a third faster time control game if we want to
get information about the level of computers at 1 hour/game.


> You cannot make any excuses for the humans they were simply outplayed.
>I did not hear the first grandmaster that Deep junior beat make any excuses when
>he lost, he just admitted that he was very impressed with junior's play and
>thought that it would have a 50% chance of winning the tournament, sounds like
>he was right on the money.

I think that it is possible that the GM's could play better if they were not in
a must win situation.

I do not know if the GM's play different moves because of the fact that they
knew that they have to win.

I believe that computers are GM strength at tounemant time control games(I guess
2550) and
should have something close to 2700 at 1 hour/game.


I do not agree that Junior had 50% chances to win the tournament because I
believe that the fact that kasparov knows Deep Junior could give him advantage.

I saw cases when Junior did mistakes that even I do not do and I believe that
kasparov is smart enough to lead Deep Junior to positions that it does not
understand in 1 hour/game.

Uri



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